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Jimmy Holiday
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They did look pretty bad last night but will rebound against those lowly stinking dirty Sharks.
Guinness
Skudra didn't have one of his better games this year but neither did anyone else,all in all it was one of those games.Skudra by no means is a number 1 goalie in this league but he was playing well before the break and I felt he should of gotten the chance to keep the streak going.Tough to have a load of confidence knowing that no matter how well you play it's just not good enough.They need the wins and whoever the hot goalie is, that's who they should ride.
They did look pretty bad last night but will rebound against those lowly stinking dirty Sharks.
Guinness
Skudra didn't have one of his better games this year but neither did anyone else,all in all it was one of those games.Skudra by no means is a number 1 goalie in this league but he was playing well before the break and I felt he should of gotten the chance to keep the streak going.Tough to have a load of confidence knowing that no matter how well you play it's just not good enough.They need the wins and whoever the hot goalie is, that's who they should ride.
Jimmy why?
Bad call on Crow's part.
Dumb move Part II - Why would he allow his team to golf and come straight to the game from the course right before a big 4 pointer?
Why? That was a long break. I can see if it were only two or three days, but not weeks. Just because he was hot before the break why would you think after 2 (or whatever) weeks had gone by would he still play like he was? He's a back up for a reason.
Bad call on Crow's part.
Dumb move Part II - Why would he allow his team to golf and come straight to the game from the course right before a big 4 pointer?
Jimmy Holiday
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Cloutier
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I agree that he is a backup,but what has Cloutier done in the last 2 years to warrant him as a starter in the NHL.Last year backup Bob led them to the playoffs to be replaced by Cloutier,where they bowed out to the Av's,albeit any goalie had a tough time stopping them but it seems that Cloutier has had everything handed to him without really earning it.I would love to see him blossom into the goalie you and the Canucks organization feel,but we need results now.
JimmywhoreallydoesntcarewhosinthepipesaslongastheyWIN!
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I agree that he is a backup,but what has Cloutier done in the last 2 years to warrant him as a starter in the NHL.Last year backup Bob led them to the playoffs to be replaced by Cloutier,where they bowed out to the Av's,albeit any goalie had a tough time stopping them but it seems that Cloutier has had everything handed to him without really earning it.I would love to see him blossom into the goalie you and the Canucks organization feel,but we need results now.
JimmywhoreallydoesntcarewhosinthepipesaslongastheyWIN!
Captain Shamrock
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Nah nah nah nah......nah nah nah nah....
Hey, hey, hey......Goooooood Byyyyyyyyyye
Unlucky bandwagon jumpers.
Hey, hey, hey......Goooooood Byyyyyyyyyye
Unlucky bandwagon jumpers.
Post Olympic hangover
Even mine hasn't worn off yet. I found myself not really caring about the score last night. I guess I just value the Olympic win more than a Stanley Cup win.
So, my analysis comes from a purely analytical point of view:
· Markus Naslund is playing at half speed. I don’t think he’s over the Belarus loss. His shots on goal have been non-existent. If he can get back to getting off 5-7 shots every night, he’ll get back on track. As Markus goes, so do the Canucks.
· Trent Klatt: maybe this guy is more valuable that anyone gives him credit for. I would be very interesting to see what the ‘Nuck's record is w/ him in the line-up, vs. w/ him out. I bet it is about .600 or more with him in.
· Perhaps the boys have gotten complacent again. After all, it is a young group, and always seem to have difficulty maintaining focus. Burke should look at making a bigger trade. I honestly think Vinny Leclavier at the cost of the sisters and possibly a minor leaguer (Steve Kariya or Josh Holden) would be a wise move. The Sedins don’t deserve to be in the show RIGHT NOW. They’ll get better, but I think Leclavier has as much, or more upside than both the sisters. And he’s cheaper.
The rest of the conference is laying the boots to the ‘Nucks right now. They have to right the ship tonight.
Even mine hasn't worn off yet. I found myself not really caring about the score last night. I guess I just value the Olympic win more than a Stanley Cup win.
So, my analysis comes from a purely analytical point of view:
· Markus Naslund is playing at half speed. I don’t think he’s over the Belarus loss. His shots on goal have been non-existent. If he can get back to getting off 5-7 shots every night, he’ll get back on track. As Markus goes, so do the Canucks.
· Trent Klatt: maybe this guy is more valuable that anyone gives him credit for. I would be very interesting to see what the ‘Nuck's record is w/ him in the line-up, vs. w/ him out. I bet it is about .600 or more with him in.
· Perhaps the boys have gotten complacent again. After all, it is a young group, and always seem to have difficulty maintaining focus. Burke should look at making a bigger trade. I honestly think Vinny Leclavier at the cost of the sisters and possibly a minor leaguer (Steve Kariya or Josh Holden) would be a wise move. The Sedins don’t deserve to be in the show RIGHT NOW. They’ll get better, but I think Leclavier has as much, or more upside than both the sisters. And he’s cheaper.
The rest of the conference is laying the boots to the ‘Nucks right now. They have to right the ship tonight.
Captain Shamrock
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It's ova baby, like Niagara Falls is ova.......
Captain Shamrock
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Final Box
Final 1st 2nd 3rd Total
San Jose 1 4 2 7
Vancouver 2 2 0 4
Final 1st 2nd 3rd Total
San Jose 1 4 2 7
Vancouver 2 2 0 4
Captain Shamrock
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Not bad, if you have Nabakov.
sensei_hanson
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I think Rick Dudley would go from "potentially the stupidest GM in hockey" to "without a doubt the stupidest GM in hockey" if he made any sort of deal that had LeCavalier in exchange for the Sedin twins. In case you haven't noticed, its not just Vancouver that's upset with their recent streak of poor play - they're not exactly a hot commodity around the NHL, either.
Unless Daniel and Henrik were packaged with either Ohlund or Morisson, there's no chance in hell we'd see LeCavalier here anytime soon. So forget that idea.
I think Todd Warriner could be dealt soon though. Anybody else think tonight was a little audition for Toddy to showcase what he's got (read: not much) to offer up front? Tyler Bouck should be coming up soon. And whatever happened to Pat Kavanaugh?
Oh yeah, Brown can't fight.
-Sensei.
Unless Daniel and Henrik were packaged with either Ohlund or Morisson, there's no chance in hell we'd see LeCavalier here anytime soon. So forget that idea.
I think Todd Warriner could be dealt soon though. Anybody else think tonight was a little audition for Toddy to showcase what he's got (read: not much) to offer up front? Tyler Bouck should be coming up soon. And whatever happened to Pat Kavanaugh?
Oh yeah, Brown can't fight.
-Sensei.
Jimmy Holiday
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I think they have to dish out some cash for a proven goalie not a wait for the future kind a guy
It's always,he will be our goalie for the future rather than the goalie for now.
As for the Sedins,lucky to get Gino Odjick for them straight up nowadays,they are way too weak and way too slow to be considered valuable trade bait.
Lets not count the boys out just yet,they are very capable of getting on a hot streak and eeke their way into the playoffs.
I think they have to dish out some cash for a proven goalie not a wait for the future kind a guy
It's always,he will be our goalie for the future rather than the goalie for now.
As for the Sedins,lucky to get Gino Odjick for them straight up nowadays,they are way too weak and way too slow to be considered valuable trade bait.
Lets not count the boys out just yet,they are very capable of getting on a hot streak and eeke their way into the playoffs.
I'm with Jimmy on this one. We can't count the boys out just yet. Ya they're on a loosing streak but they're only 4 points out of it. A month or so ago everyone was going crazy about them b/c they were winning. Now that they are loosing you guys want to give up on them . Its a shite time to go on a loosing streak but they will turn it around starting against Nashville tomorrow.
Cloutier is a good goalie, he's just inconsistent. He played well on Saturday in the 2nd and 3rd periods and then he shite the bed last night.
What I enjoyed about last nights game was the fact that the fans cheered for Nabokov(sp) when he scored his goal. Our fans are one of the classiest in the NHL.
. Its a shite time to go on a loosing streak but they will turn it around starting against Nashville tomorrow.Cloutier is a good goalie, he's just inconsistent. He played well on Saturday in the 2nd and 3rd periods and then he shite the bed last night.
What I enjoyed about last nights game was the fact that the fans cheered for Nabokov(sp) when he scored his goal. Our fans are one of the classiest in the NHL.
Hands of Stone
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Ring the Bell
The Nucks Bandwagon is as easy to get on and off of as a B.C. Transit Bus.
Don't give up on the boys, but Burke may have to make a move before the trade dead-line, a trade that he may not have done if the Nucks could have kept up the winning ways.
Damn Olympic break, great to win the Gold, but the break fcuked the Nucks right up.
Whoever is talking trade about the Sedin Sisters is crazy, it is only the second year in the league for the girls, and it is going to take time for them to develop. Look at another Swede, Nasy, it took him years to develop into the player he is. But maybe we want to match the Cam Nealy trade as the worst trade in Nucks history.
Not that the sisters are close to Mr. Sea Bass, but they will develop into good players for the Nucks.
T-Bone
The Nucks Bandwagon is as easy to get on and off of as a B.C. Transit Bus.
Don't give up on the boys, but Burke may have to make a move before the trade dead-line, a trade that he may not have done if the Nucks could have kept up the winning ways.
Damn Olympic break, great to win the Gold, but the break fcuked the Nucks right up.
Whoever is talking trade about the Sedin Sisters is crazy, it is only the second year in the league for the girls, and it is going to take time for them to develop. Look at another Swede, Nasy, it took him years to develop into the player he is. But maybe we want to match the Cam Nealy trade as the worst trade in Nucks history.
Not that the sisters are close to Mr. Sea Bass, but they will develop into good players for the Nucks.
T-Bone
The Apprentice
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re.cloutier
true....so true
true....so true
Clouts
At least Cloutier showed some emotion last night. He gave it to the coach in frustration, and gave it to his teammates for their decision to stop playing. He'll be OK...but will it be soon enough?
The sisters potential upside is the only thing that scares me about trading then, but they have been given far more ice time than Nassy ever was early on. It was only when Nassy got the ice time that he flourished.
At least Cloutier showed some emotion last night. He gave it to the coach in frustration, and gave it to his teammates for their decision to stop playing. He'll be OK...but will it be soon enough?
The sisters potential upside is the only thing that scares me about trading then, but they have been given far more ice time than Nassy ever was early on. It was only when Nassy got the ice time that he flourished.
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