bergamascho
Well-Known Member
Peter Price was his name. He is the boss for soccer teams (Senior level) @ CMF.
Croatia also has a game in hand to be played against Sapperton. If they were to win that game, you could have 8 teams within 3 points of first place. That's incredible.
On another note, we have now heard some additional very interesting opinions in this forum about the super league...we have now heard in particular from key members of Columbus, WVAN, Croatia, and Inter, all of which voiced anything but agreement on the new league. We have even gotten some feedback from Gorge, again on the negative side.
I would love to hear an opinion from key members of Surrey United and Metro Ford. I have spoken to people on both clubs that don't agree with the super league, as it stands now.
I am 99% certain that Delta is totally against the super league.
I am 99% certain the Richmond is totally against the super league.
I would really like to hear from whataboutbob and Sapperton on this.
I would like to hear from Westside (or have we already?....too many posts to go thru!)
I would like to hear from Norvan...but my sense is that they have no interest in the new league, as it stands.
I am still waiting for a key member of a vmsl premier team to come out and say they are for this new league and cannot wait to get cracking next year if they qualify.
This is one grand promotional campaign by someone who has an expertise in that area. It is very bad for the VMSL, and very good for the perpetrators of this agenda. I cannot believe it has gotten this far, and I fear that the VMSL powers that be have been fooled by a skilled pitch-man. Good for you Reedie for bringing this to light.
The VMSL Premier teams voted to look into forming a BCLeague and Azzi negotiated the best deal he could get. Azzi then reported back to the membership and he encouraged the clubs to support the idea, which they did because they want to improve local soccer. I applaud their courage. It may work well in which case we can enjoy better soccer and media coverage. Maybe it won't work and if that happens then we can revert back.
The VMSL Premier teams voted that IN PRINCIPLE the notion of a BC League sounded like a good idea. We left the organizational meeting with a promise of further details regarding a number of questions raised at the organizational meeting.
We did NOT give the VMSL the mandate to negotiate ANY deal. We requested further information and it was not provided. Instead, a committee was formed without any notice to the Premier clubs inviting our contributions to the committee. WAB and Sandman can tell you what went on there.
At the VMSL AGM we were presented with the current format as a done deal. A few of us challenged the president. By my recollection, the SUFF rep was decidedly against it. The tall, bald fellow from Richmond also said his piece. I believe Columbus was against it but I don't recall anyone saying anything on their behalf.
Mr. Price was definitely for it. The Croatia rep did not care one way or the other.
I believe West Van was absent. Certainly no one from them spoke up.
The issue was presented as one of motherhood and apple pie, i.e. "If you love the game, you will vote in this deal."
Unfortunately, the bulk of the room was made up of Div 2 and 3 teams who did not care one way or the other so they voted how they were told.
I think you can figure out where I stood at the meeting.
I agree, but that is the responsibility of the VMSL powers to advertise/promote their league...why isn't Azzi emailing weekly schedules/results/standings to the local Lower Mainland papers, be it the Province/Sun or the municipality papers like Vancouver Courier, Delta Optimist, Richmond News, etc??? As long as you send this info to these papers, they will print it, so it won't cost the league anything unless Azzi decides to do some other promotional advertising.Yes, Reedie has stirred the pot.
For years people have been complaining, me included about the lack of media attention to the VMSL and the low attendance of fans at games.
Unfortunately, this is where you have it wrong...Azzi promised us at the Premier meeting that he would report back to each Premier club no later than 7-10 days before the league AGM and that his email package to us would have all the answers to the questions posed to him on the night of the Premier team reps meeting...I was there and remember it very clearly...all these posts about what people say happened at that meeting have been farciscal at best...that meeting ended with Azzi not being happy at all because so many of us stunned him with all these questions of feasability instead of just excepting it, which I truly believe he thought we all would. The meeting ended with Azzi asking us would we support him moving forward to determine the answers to all our questions, which we agreed to him doing before we would even consider a vote on the new league itself. For Azzi to then not get this package to us and turn around at the AGM and lie to everyone that the Premier teams supported the new league was an absolute farce and embarassment to the league membership.The VMSL Premier teams voted to look into forming a BCLeague and Azzi negotiated the best deal he could get. Azzi then reported back to the membership...
Oops!!! Sorry Oranje, replied to PV's post before getting to yours, but well said and I'm sorry to have repeated what you clearly outlined.The VMSL Premier teams voted that IN PRINCIPLE the notion of a BC League sounded like a good idea. We left the organizational meeting with a promise of further details regarding a number of questions raised at the organizational meeting.
We did NOT give the VMSL the mandate to negotiate ANY deal. We requested further information and it was not provided. Instead, a committee was formed without any notice to the Premier clubs inviting our contributions to the committee. WAB and Sandman can tell you what went on there.
At the VMSL AGM we were presented with the current format as a done deal. A few of us challenged the president. By my recollection, the SUFF rep was decidedly against it. The tall, bald fellow from Richmond also said his piece. I believe Columbus was against it but I don't recall anyone saying anything on their behalf.
Mr. Price was definitely for it. The Croatia rep did not care one way or the other.
I believe West Van was absent. Certainly no one from them spoke up.
The issue was presented as one of motherhood and apple pie, i.e. "If you love the game, you will vote in this deal."
Unfortunately, the bulk of the room was made up of Div 2 and 3 teams who did not care one way or the other so they voted how they were told.
I think you can figure out where I stood at the meeting.
Just confirming some more for you here Reedie...Croatia also has a game in hand to be played against Sapperton. If they were to win that game, you could have 8 teams within 3 points of first place. That's incredible.
On another note, we have now heard some additional very interesting opinions in this forum about the super league...we have now heard in particular from key members of Columbus, WVAN, Croatia, and Inter, all of which voiced anything but agreement on the new league. We have even gotten some feedback from Gorge, again on the negative side.
I would love to hear an opinion from key members of Surrey United and Metro Ford. I have spoken to people on both clubs that don't agree with the super league, as it stands now.
I am 99% certain that Delta is totally against the super league.
I am 99% certain the Richmond is totally against the super league.
I would really like to hear from whataboutbob and Sapperton on this.
I would like to hear from Westside (or have we already?....too many posts to go thru!)
I would like to hear from Norvan...but my sense is that they have no interest in the new league, as it stands.
I am still waiting for a key member of a vmsl premier team to come out and say they are for this new league and cannot wait to get cracking next year if they qualify.
My two cents:
I say forget about the so call BC super league and create a BRAND NEW LEAGUE:
Called it PREMIER LEAGUE
Year 1: Only 10-12 teams Premier (all the premier teams).
Year 2: Each team must add a B Team (reserve)
Year 3: Each team must add a Junior team (U21 or U18)
Year 4: Each team must add a MASTER team (for those premier players who can't keep up with the pace of the youngters)
The PRESIDENT of this League will be: (fo sure not Reedie or Captain Shamrock, please)
Now there will be a NWP list...starting with HOS.
Now if the teams wanted they can reduce the number of years.
By doing this:
You don't have to deal with the FVSL, VISL, Mr. Azzi. Ghouse, etc.
Hell but you have to deal with WAB, Wrecking Crew, DC20, Orange, Burnro, Pantusa, Joe Pappa, Smallsy, The MUPPETS, BJB (and his union input), Reedie....ohhhh shite ...never mind ... forget the idea
Plus there are not good referees... hell... we have whitler Blower, Captain Shamrock and now just coming in BRONCO...not good
F#%@*&.... and Mr. Base.
My two cents:
I say forget about the so call BC super league and create a BRAND NEW LEAGUE:
Called it PREMIER LEAGUE
Year 1: Only 10-12 teams Premier (all the premier teams).
Year 2: Each team must add a B Team (reserve)
Year 3: Each team must add a Junior team (U21 or U18)
Year 4: Each team must add a MASTER team (for those premier players who can't keep up with the pace of the youngters
The PRESIDENT of this League will be: (fo sure not Reedie or Captain Shamrock, please)
Now there will be a NWP list...starting with HOS.
Now if the teams wanted they can reduce the number of years.
By doing this:
You don't have to deal with the FVSL, VISL, Mr. Azzi. Ghouse, etc.
Hell but you have to deal with WAB, Wrecking Crew, DC20, Orange, Burnro, Pantusa, Joe Pappa, Smallsy, The MUPPETS, BJB (and his union input), Reedie....ohhhh shite ...never mind ... forget the idea
Plus there are not good referees... hell... we have whitler Blower, Captain Shamrock and now just coming in BRONCO...not good
F#%@*&.... and Mr. Base.