bettermirror
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No argument there, Cantona.
Yet our ability to produce players for Provincial, National, and University hasn't changed and has increased. 10,000 House players doesn't equal 1 select player. HPL is about elite player development not about how many house level players you have registered in your club. Yet all Whalley is concerned about is how many players are registered in their club. Nothing about player development. All your clubs gains have been through acquisition and not through player development. To add to that all you care about is having more players registered in your club compared to Surrey FC. Your club has had a hard on to try to bring us down but you have never mentioned anything about player development in your posts.Here are some stats for u bollocks i hope u agree that the chart looks nice and who ever did this I bilieve did some research of his own. I was lucky to find this on the side fo the road. I thought I share it with you and rest of the TTP group and hopefully better mirror will like it too.
Very interesting. I would assume these teams wouldn't cost the players/parents anything?
Bullocks,
Some of credit to your numbers in the chart should go to Pitt Meadows/GEU "Whalley" group because all the boys that make the National program are from Surrey Select joint venture with Whalley Soccer and Surrey Youth.
That's pretty cheap to pad the numbers as all yours.
I know this because my kid is included in that number on bar chart and he made it to Selects through Whalley Soccer (CCFC).
I am just wondering what the $2500 is getting these kids over the probably $200 they pay to play Selects. Is there travel tourny's that this helps pay for or is this just to pay coaches. Also wondering who these coaches are and what they are realistically getting paid. I do feel coaches who are working with a high level team 4-5 days a week do deserve some compensation, because it is time away from their family and a pretty big committment. If we don't want coaches with their son on the team they need to be paid at this level but what is a realistic wage.
Yet our ability to produce players for Provincial, National, and University hasn't changed and has increased. 10,000 House players doesn't equal 1 select player. HPL is about elite player development not about how many house level players you have registered in your club. Yet all Whalley is concerned about is how many players are registered in their club. Nothing about player development. All your clubs gains have been through acquisition and not through player development. To add to that all you care about is having more players registered in your club compared to Surrey FC. Your club has had a hard on to try to bring us down but you have never mentioned anything about player development in your posts.
One reason our club numbers have suffered is because of our choice to follow CSA and BCSA guidelines about long term player development and any other initiates. All our players who want to play for Metro,Gold, Silver teams are required to be evaluated. Unlike at Whalley where they just "accept teams" and put directly them into gold. Your numbers are also assuming that all these teams from the Surrey Breakers are coming over to central city next season? Just ask Surrey United how many teams which played for the breakers this year have already committed to Surrey United next year.
My friend for the record I am not here on behalf of any club or organisation. Ijust found a stat and shared it with everyone. Talking about numbers I hear that this new CCB club is very strong at the mini level something like 2 to 1 to your organisation. I see you brag about players in the national and provincial program but if you have no mini program where would the NEXT BUNCH OF TALENTED players come from. I looked at SDGSA website U 13 CCB select teams 2- SFC 1, U 12 CCB Select teams 5 to SFC i and even that team is in Selct B, U 11 CCB1- SFC 1, U 10 CCB 12-SFC 1 now out of 12, 5 are in development which means select. U 9 CCB 7- SFC 1, U8 CCB 8- SFC 2. Lets chat on the boys side now U 11 CCB 13 teams- SFC -8, U 10 CCB 10 teams - SFC 4, U 9 CCB 12 - SFC 4, Micro boys U 4- U 8 CCB 350+- SFC 80. I mean lets be honest the way kids are droping out of your club the talent pool will shrink. As per your claim for teams just moving to Whalley I see they are super strong in the lower age groups where there is no such thing as a tryout yet so I disagree. I have heard that there development program is solid aswell and is shown with 5 boys teams making to the confrence cup final. Please help my stats with how many SFC teams made it there 1 i am jsut guessing??? Every single one of their girls teams is still in the cup play so there must be something going on right. What about 22 whIte caps prospects in just U 13 and U 12 girls with CCB. Thsi is a sign of bigger and better things coming from the old Whalley and new CCB, Just have some patience and keep colecting the stats. Like u said the U 18 girls and U 17 girls have gone to play on the national and provincial teams, I would like to see how many girls from U 11-12 you think will now be going to the provincial program really I know you have the answer but U might not share that with TTP.
Lets talk about the breakers kids. Good for Surrey United if your information is true but I am once again going to preach patience as everyone will find out what happens with the breakers kids where do they go.
I am just someone who collects stats and I am sitting and waiting excitingly for what is going to come out of this battel for supermacy in the Newton area. I hope the right guys come on top and the talent around that area ( which also contributes to SFC's success in the past) is showcased and makes us all proud of Surrey Soccer.
I HEAR THROUGH MY SOURCES THAT SOUTH FRASER CLUB IS GOING TO GET HPL BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY BC SOCCER IGNORES THE FACT OF DECREASE IN NUMBERS LIKE 40% AND A DISPUTE OVER THE FACILITY. LIKE I SAID I AM JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS MY KID WILL BE 6 NEXT FALL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ENROLL HIM IN THE RIGHT CLUB.
I HEAR THROUGH MY SOURCES THAT SOUTH FRASER CLUB IS GOING TO GET HPL BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY BC SOCCER IGNORES THE FACT OF DECREASE IN NUMBERS LIKE 40% AND A DISPUTE OVER THE FACILITY. LIKE I SAID I AM JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS MY KID WILL BE 6 NEXT FALL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ENROLL HIM IN THE RIGHT CLUB.
My friend for the record I am not here on behalf of any club or organisation. Ijust found a stat and shared it with everyone. Talking about numbers I hear that this new CCB club is very strong at the mini level something like 2 to 1 to your organisation. I see you brag about players in the national and provincial program but if you have no mini program where would the NEXT BUNCH OF TALENTED players come from. I looked at SDGSA website U 13 CCB select teams 2- SFC 1, U 12 CCB Select teams 5 to SFC i and even that team is in Selct B, U 11 CCB1- SFC 1, U 10 CCB 12-SFC 1 now out of 12, 5 are in development which means select. U 9 CCB 7- SFC 1, U8 CCB 8- SFC 2. Lets chat on the boys side now U 11 CCB 13 teams- SFC -8, U 10 CCB 10 teams - SFC 4, U 9 CCB 12 - SFC 4, Micro boys U 4- U 8 CCB 350+- SFC 80. I mean lets be honest the way kids are droping out of your club the talent pool will shrink. As per your claim for teams just moving to Whalley I see they are super strong in the lower age groups where there is no such thing as a tryout yet so I disagree. I have heard that there development program is solid aswell and is shown with 5 boys teams making to the confrence cup final. Please help my stats with how many SFC teams made it there 1 i am jsut guessing??? Every single one of their girls teams is still in the cup play so there must be something going on right. What about 22 whIte caps prospects in just U 13 and U 12 girls with CCB. Thsi is a sign of bigger and better things coming from the old Whalley and new CCB, Just have some patience and keep colecting the stats. Like u said the U 18 girls and U 17 girls have gone to play on the national and provincial teams, I would like to see how many girls from U 11-12 you think will now be going to the provincial program really I know you have the answer but U might not share that with TTP.
Lets talk about the breakers kids. Good for Surrey United if your information is true but I am once again going to preach patience as everyone will find out what happens with the breakers kids where do they go.
I am just someone who collects stats and I am sitting and waiting excitingly for what is going to come out of this battel for supermacy in the Newton area. I hope the right guys come on top and the talent around that area ( which also contributes to SFC's success in the past) is showcased and makes us all proud of Surrey Soccer.
I HEAR THROUGH MY SOURCES THAT SOUTH FRASER CLUB IS GOING TO GET HPL BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY BC SOCCER IGNORES THE FACT OF DECREASE IN NUMBERS LIKE 40% AND A DISPUTE OVER THE FACILITY. LIKE I SAID I AM JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS MY KID WILL BE 6 NEXT FALL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ENROLL HIM IN THE RIGHT CLUB.