Captain Shamrock
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Div 2 [VMSL Division 2] Predictions, Results & Banter, Feb-Mar, 2007
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1-1 final. Wewon the shootout which is only to be used if the other 35 tiebreaking methods fail. 
Fair result. We had a stronger first half and they had the stronger second, especially the last 15 when we were down to 10 men. We had a first half goal called back due to a phantom offside and during the last 15 had a couple we blocked a few goalline scrambles with various body parts.
On to Bombastic Friday, i will be in Orlando so good luck to the lads.
Fair result. We had a stronger first half and they had the stronger second, especially the last 15 when we were down to 10 men. We had a first half goal called back due to a phantom offside and during the last 15 had a couple we blocked a few goalline scrambles with various body parts.
On to Bombastic Friday, i will be in Orlando so good luck to the lads.
Final at Holly. Score reporting from Orlando, laptop at the hotub of the house.
Rangers 3
Bombastic 1
Fcuking proud of our guys. Missing our Centreback to suspension and we get the result we need to go up.
What do you put on a sunburn?????
IS it a penalty if you hit your ball in play but there is alligators too near to risk hitting it again. I need a ruling.
Rangers 3
Bombastic 1
Fcuking proud of our guys. Missing our Centreback to suspension and we get the result we need to go up.
What do you put on a sunburn?????
IS it a penalty if you hit your ball in play but there is alligators too near to risk hitting it again. I need a ruling.
Sidewinder
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Well done Rangers--see you in the summer.
Army;
Rules of golf--decision1-4/10 allows you to drop a ball at the nearest spot,not nearer the hole,which is not dangerous[you can substitute the ball] No penalty. [courtesy golfonline.com]
Army;
Rules of golf--decision1-4/10 allows you to drop a ball at the nearest spot,not nearer the hole,which is not dangerous[you can substitute the ball] No penalty. [courtesy golfonline.com]
Bombastic 2 GN 1
GN played pretty terrible in the first and bombastic looked dangerous.
Second half saw Bombastic go into a defensive mode which almost cost them as Gn scored with 20 or so left and it was pretty scary in their end after that.their keepr with a couple of huge stops to keep them ahead and in the end they did enough to win.
Bringing the bbq out tonight was a good idea. We got to eat and stay warm at the same time.
Bombastic and us both move up and GN stays in Div 2.
GN played pretty terrible in the first and bombastic looked dangerous.
Second half saw Bombastic go into a defensive mode which almost cost them as Gn scored with 20 or so left and it was pretty scary in their end after that.their keepr with a couple of huge stops to keep them ahead and in the end they did enough to win.
Bringing the bbq out tonight was a good idea. We got to eat and stay warm at the same time.
Bombastic and us both move up and GN stays in Div 2.
I think this is well deserved since they were the two best teams on DIV 2 this year (my opinion).
In any case Div 2 should be much more competitive next year with the four teams relegated from DIV1 plus the good teams coming from DIV 3 (B. Luchadores and Desmesh) .
There should be a new divisional setup as well which should be decided.
In any case Div 2 should be much more competitive next year with the four teams relegated from DIV1 plus the good teams coming from DIV 3 (B. Luchadores and Desmesh) .
There should be a new divisional setup as well which should be decided.
The new divisional setup should be 20 teams in div 2 and 20 in div 3, that would make it much more competitive than the past year. That is the direction the league shuld be going toward at the lower levels. Teams like Dexterity, no offense to them, should be playing in a different league than this one or joining up with an exisitng club and fielding a stronger side that way. to be that outmatched in the majority of games is a waste of time to the team you are playing against no matter how much effort you as a shorthanded team put in.
There will be meetings over the summer to see what they are going to end up with.
As for the promotion, it seems that the teams with a "club" system in place tend to fare better than those without. We have a CAT and U21 team and Bombastic has a CAT and Masters team. ( 3 more years until we have enough old guys for a masters team.) The fact that there is an infastructure in place for more than one roster of players strengthens each clubs "top" team. In the promotion games we started a u21 and started our "backup" keeper but beyond that we always manage to have enough guys to training to work on things and do full field things as we have the numbers do to so.
There will be meetings over the summer to see what they are going to end up with.
As for the promotion, it seems that the teams with a "club" system in place tend to fare better than those without. We have a CAT and U21 team and Bombastic has a CAT and Masters team. ( 3 more years until we have enough old guys for a masters team.) The fact that there is an infastructure in place for more than one roster of players strengthens each clubs "top" team. In the promotion games we started a u21 and started our "backup" keeper but beyond that we always manage to have enough guys to training to work on things and do full field things as we have the numbers do to so.
I'm not sure Desmesh will be in Div 2 next year... with 4 Div 1 teams coming down and only 2 promoted, there is 2 extra teams. Subtract the 3 demoted Div 2 teams, and you're only left with 1 spot for Div 3 promotion!
It would be a tragedy for such a good team to be stuck in Div 3 again. Hopefully one of the crap bottom teams volunteers to drop to Div 3 or simply folds.
It would be a tragedy for such a good team to be stuck in Div 3 again. Hopefully one of the crap bottom teams volunteers to drop to Div 3 or simply folds.
ya, i think it was only 1 team coming up from div 3, which is sort of ridiculous if Desmesh plays there again; if they have the same team that beat us in the cup....the other tragedy is GN not going up; it's sort of retarded if they lose one game all year and end up staying in Div 2; i say bring more teams down if they want to shorten the premier division- the top teams in Div 2 are easily mid-to-top Div 1 teams just look at previous years. Having said that , it was a great promo game to watch between GN and Bombastic, the celebration by Bombastic and the desperation, chances and eventual devestation of GN was pretty dramatic to watch. good luck to rangers and the bomb in div 1. hope to see some good decisions on the league realignment this summer, which was lacking last summer...
Evergreen, what a fitting nickname...
When two guys who have been involved in this league (in div 1 and div 2) as long as bandcamp and army tell you how it is, you should consider that they probably know what they're talking about.
All 3 teams that you mentioned made significant roster changes between their winning season in Div 2 and the next season in Div 1.
In fact, both Binger's and Primo went up and straight back down (likely without changing their rosters) before regaining promotion and staying up. I believe the first year Primo went up they had a record of something like 1-1-16 (the 1 win was due to their opponents attacking the ref).
If you really want to see how you guys stack up, I would suggest scheduling a preseason exhibition game next August against a good Div 1 squad. (forget summer, because they likely won't get their full squad out).
When two guys who have been involved in this league (in div 1 and div 2) as long as bandcamp and army tell you how it is, you should consider that they probably know what they're talking about.
All 3 teams that you mentioned made significant roster changes between their winning season in Div 2 and the next season in Div 1.
In fact, both Binger's and Primo went up and straight back down (likely without changing their rosters) before regaining promotion and staying up. I believe the first year Primo went up they had a record of something like 1-1-16 (the 1 win was due to their opponents attacking the ref).
If you really want to see how you guys stack up, I would suggest scheduling a preseason exhibition game next August against a good Div 1 squad. (forget summer, because they likely won't get their full squad out).
Evergreen.
I have been involved with 2 clubs that have been promoted from Div 2 to Div 1. I have also been relegated with 1.
With the Blaze, in Div 1 we were at best an average squad. We had been one of the top teams in the div for the year previous but Cliff ave was by far the best team and we were in there group. After the promotion we discovered that we were going to need more players if we were ever going to have any success at that level. We most likely got worst before i left as we lost tons of depth of guys who couldn't handle div 1 and quit because it was frustrating to try and play in it. Teams need a feeder squad to be successful in div 1 as as soon as guys start to drop a step they are easily exposed.
Our (Rangers) relegation year we started the season with one squad and finished with almost a completely different one while trying to salvage the season. The CAT players, who were in the midst of a couple of pretty good years got almost all our points that season after xmas as we got older and slower with our original A squad that year and replaced 6 or 7 starters as the years progressed Our club was always at the wrong end of one goal games where stupid mistakes were punished. Ithink by the end of the year we were not the worst team in our league ( we actually lost 2 relegation games) but our pre-xmas form was terrible and that cost us. The following year in Div 2 we were a far worse squad and finished 4 in our group even with the points deduction for not having cards one game.
Going forward to next year, in my mind, having watched a lot of div 1 games watching friends or whatever, i think we will probably need to find 5 or 6 guys who play major minutes if we want to avoid having to think about relegation. We may have 3 o4 of those guys in our U21 squad right now but we will see how things go over the summer and what we have going into next season.
Depth is a huge key in div 1 as you simply cannot have guys playing if they are slowed by injury or what have you. This year in Div 2 we could get away with having guys with injuries play in some discomfort but it was not goin to be a big problem as they would be able to keep up with speed of the game. BOth our starting forwards have played hurt since XmaS AND our big striker upfront has played with a hernia all season where it makes it hard for him to chase a lot of balls down and turn quickly. He was able to play upfront using his size and his smarts and that won't go very far in div 1 as the teams are a lot better.
As for promoted teams haviong success, Dezza is quite right in saying there was serious squad changes in some cases. I remember playing PRimos with the Blaze (in Div 1)and the team they have now bears very little resemblance to the team they got relegated with. That is the one bonus of the relegation situation. It hink it is really hard to go down and then back up the next year but you realize what your club needs to be successful and put that into use as the next few years progress. That Primos team who was relegated had dominated their group in their promotion year but we easily handled in
div 1 with the same squad.
Div 1 is going to be a much harder diviosn next year than in this past years as well wit the 3 relegated teams from premier all joining in and the one unbeaten group winner.
I have been involved with 2 clubs that have been promoted from Div 2 to Div 1. I have also been relegated with 1.
With the Blaze, in Div 1 we were at best an average squad. We had been one of the top teams in the div for the year previous but Cliff ave was by far the best team and we were in there group. After the promotion we discovered that we were going to need more players if we were ever going to have any success at that level. We most likely got worst before i left as we lost tons of depth of guys who couldn't handle div 1 and quit because it was frustrating to try and play in it. Teams need a feeder squad to be successful in div 1 as as soon as guys start to drop a step they are easily exposed.
Our (Rangers) relegation year we started the season with one squad and finished with almost a completely different one while trying to salvage the season. The CAT players, who were in the midst of a couple of pretty good years got almost all our points that season after xmas as we got older and slower with our original A squad that year and replaced 6 or 7 starters as the years progressed Our club was always at the wrong end of one goal games where stupid mistakes were punished. Ithink by the end of the year we were not the worst team in our league ( we actually lost 2 relegation games) but our pre-xmas form was terrible and that cost us. The following year in Div 2 we were a far worse squad and finished 4 in our group even with the points deduction for not having cards one game.
Going forward to next year, in my mind, having watched a lot of div 1 games watching friends or whatever, i think we will probably need to find 5 or 6 guys who play major minutes if we want to avoid having to think about relegation. We may have 3 o4 of those guys in our U21 squad right now but we will see how things go over the summer and what we have going into next season.
Depth is a huge key in div 1 as you simply cannot have guys playing if they are slowed by injury or what have you. This year in Div 2 we could get away with having guys with injuries play in some discomfort but it was not goin to be a big problem as they would be able to keep up with speed of the game. BOth our starting forwards have played hurt since XmaS AND our big striker upfront has played with a hernia all season where it makes it hard for him to chase a lot of balls down and turn quickly. He was able to play upfront using his size and his smarts and that won't go very far in div 1 as the teams are a lot better.
As for promoted teams haviong success, Dezza is quite right in saying there was serious squad changes in some cases. I remember playing PRimos with the Blaze (in Div 1)and the team they have now bears very little resemblance to the team they got relegated with. That is the one bonus of the relegation situation. It hink it is really hard to go down and then back up the next year but you realize what your club needs to be successful and put that into use as the next few years progress. That Primos team who was relegated had dominated their group in their promotion year but we easily handled in
div 1 with the same squad.
Div 1 is going to be a much harder diviosn next year than in this past years as well wit the 3 relegated teams from premier all joining in and the one unbeaten group winner.
Georgie's Best
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Well after 8 years with BFC although not playing with our A squad any more it was a beautiful thing to see our boys go up for a go in Div 1.
The match it's self was definately a match of 2 halfs. 1st half we played comfortably and our striker partnership up front showed it's class. Up 2 nil but could have been 3 or 4 with a little luck. 2nd half GN brought it to us and if not for 2 or 3 very solid saves it would of been drawn and another year in Div 2.
Interesting comments about having a good CAT System in place. Can't agree enough. Good for training, great for weekends when short players and excellent for retaining your players and club atmosphere. We also have the same success going on with our ladies who also just gained promo from 2 to Div 1 there.
With the addition of 2 or 3 players I fancy our Clubs chances of staying up but it will be a big battle. The key to our squad is two strikers who will be able to score in Div 1 almost as easily as in Div 2 and one of the most rounded center halfs (back) I've played with.
With the 4 clubs coming down from Div 1 (fewer weaker teams to take points from) and the Premier droppers next year could be one of the tougher years in Div 1 to have to go up.
The team orgainization is also very good at BFC so that will certainly bode well. We shall see though.
I'm interested in seeing the new Div structure next year as well.
The match it's self was definately a match of 2 halfs. 1st half we played comfortably and our striker partnership up front showed it's class. Up 2 nil but could have been 3 or 4 with a little luck. 2nd half GN brought it to us and if not for 2 or 3 very solid saves it would of been drawn and another year in Div 2.
Interesting comments about having a good CAT System in place. Can't agree enough. Good for training, great for weekends when short players and excellent for retaining your players and club atmosphere. We also have the same success going on with our ladies who also just gained promo from 2 to Div 1 there.
With the addition of 2 or 3 players I fancy our Clubs chances of staying up but it will be a big battle. The key to our squad is two strikers who will be able to score in Div 1 almost as easily as in Div 2 and one of the most rounded center halfs (back) I've played with.
With the 4 clubs coming down from Div 1 (fewer weaker teams to take points from) and the Premier droppers next year could be one of the tougher years in Div 1 to have to go up.
The team orgainization is also very good at BFC so that will certainly bode well. We shall see though.
I'm interested in seeing the new Div structure next year as well.
Captain Shamrock
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Army, a very eloquent post for two hours sleep and a bend over session at the casino. I didn't even know Rico had internet or that he can use a computer.
Were you there to witness this at the casino?
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