Bergamascho all I said to you was. If Azzi adds three teams to premier. Where the hell will they get the players to play at that level? Teams will again lose players to shity sides. Level of soccer will fall again. All he cares about is how much more they will make a year.
If this was figure skating .....
Mr base would have just won the gold medal for a nearly flawless performance!
well done sir
Let 3 teams go up, just like the league mentioned it at the beginning of the year. Only one team should go down from Premier. 14 team Premier, and 14 team DIV 1 is the only fair way to go next year. This is the fallout of not having BCPL.
I disagree. The fallout of not having a BCPL is throwing the restructuring plan out the window. The only reason 3 teams were getting promoted was because there was going to be a BCPL and the premier division was going to lose 4 or 6 teams. Now that's not happening, so why in the world would we follow through with the restructuring...it was entirely contingent on the new league! It doesn't make sense. We should be reverting back to relegating 2 premier teams and promoting 2 div 1 teams, keeping the premier division at 12 next year and hopefully moving to 10 in the following season. I believe if this goes to a vote across the entire vmsl, this is exactly what will happen, as it should. If we leave it up tot he executive to decide on their own, who knows what will happen....we may inadvertently "accept" a 24 team premier division.
Reedie, once again Ill ask you the same question that I did to Gilly... would you be in favor of relegating 2 premier teams and allowing two to come up if Peg was in that 11th or 12th spot in premier?...
How could I ever be in favour of being relegated? Of course if I was the team in 11th spot I would fight tooth and nail to keep the restructuring plan in place...because it would help me. But I would be wrong to do so and I would also be in the vast minority. I would also be kicking myself that we didn't finish higher in the standings, which is what truly caused my dilemma.
At the end of the day, I think we need to take care of the premier division the best we can. The vast majority of premier teams (11 of 12) banded together and rejected the bcpl and if we had another vote, I'm certain 10 of 12 would vote for a 12 team premier division next season. I'm also certain that the vast majority of div 1 teams would also vote to scrap the restructurig plan, as it means many of them won't be relegated to div 2. If it goes to a league vote in this fashion at the AGM, I see no reason why this will not pass overwhelmingly.
The only issue I have is waiting until the summer to decide the fate of some teams. I think we need to sort this out ASAP and that SEEMED to be what the email from Azzi was indicating..."we are working on a new plan"...but only time will tell.
Cheers
at the end of season have a round robin with the bottom 2 premiers and top 3 from div 1..
decide relegation promotion that way for this year only
fair?
Polska, this is a great idea that will keep the premier division at 12 next year and also ensure the best teams make it. It also solves the issues that Dezza has raised above.
The problem in this case is that too much common sense would be applied.
I know the premier teams formed a committee to try and work with Azzi on this very issue but he did not want to work with them at all, although he is taking suggestions via phone call. Probably best if some make their calls from a blocked number.
Reedie, remember my good friend you/we were in division one last year
As mentioned it would be a kick in the stones for the division one teams. 3 up and one down is the only FAIR thing given the circumstances.
I cant agree, though u have watched/reffed more than i have capt. but do u see as it stands now any of the div 1 teams making for better competition for premier the next year? Of course their are the off season aquisitions an such and the establishment of a chemistry and strategy ...
I would like to see a match between say EX: (serb and norvan) to see where this all currently stands
No Offense to div 1 teams but its a different world up their as most of u know..