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Gun control on a more serious level
- Thread starter Sir M
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What about if the person involved was a 6'4", 295 pounds, angry person, having just committed felony robbery, who tried to disarm a police officer, disobeyed commands to stop and warnings, and left him no option to use lethal force, which the officer is legally authorized to do by law... as per the testimony of the credible witnesses before the Grand Jury.
Utah...you are right. Thanks to Marcia, Connor is growing up into a fine young man who will never find himself in that situation. 
Just wondering guys, what deserves death? There is a big difference between defending oneself with a gun, shooting to the chest to take down the attacker, an unloading the clip on the kid and making damn sure he's dead. Way beyond self Defense.
My opinion. You don't need to like it or agree.
Just wondering guys, what deserves death? There is a big difference between defending oneself with a gun, shooting to the chest to take down the attacker, an unloading the clip on the kid and making damn sure he's dead. Way beyond self Defense.
My opinion. You don't need to like it or agree.
You tell me Sirem, you know...how many should it take to bring a man down? I know there is no one answer here and it's a loaded question (no pun intended), but aren't police trained to use necessary force, and aren't they trained in stress situations? At what point did he cross the line?
Listen, I'm not a lover of thugs or petty criminals, far from it, but...I don't think this kid was entirely killed in self defence. I believe there was a lot more to it.
And I also believe that if it were a black cop (not named OJ) and a white kid, the cop would be indicted. And this is more my point...
Listen, I'm not a lover of thugs or petty criminals, far from it, but...I don't think this kid was entirely killed in self defence. I believe there was a lot more to it.
And I also believe that if it were a black cop (not named OJ) and a white kid, the cop would be indicted. And this is more my point...
Utah, it's not about backing a horse, it's about me believing the American system is broken, and there is too much racial tension to truly have a "jury of peers".
I don't know sat the answer is, either. I just think in this case they got it wrong.
I don't know sat the answer is, either. I just think in this case they got it wrong.
The last time I shot a handgun I was about 12, in a shooting range in Coquitlam. Didn't hook me. Yes I hit the target.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have shot to bring the man down, and as I understand, you aim for the centre mass of the body. At this point, the likelihood of Brown surviving has to be low.
But again, how many rounds? Seems a bit much to defend oneself and bring the assailant down. I'm questioning that, yes.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have shot to bring the man down, and as I understand, you aim for the centre mass of the body. At this point, the likelihood of Brown surviving has to be low.
But again, how many rounds? Seems a bit much to defend oneself and bring the assailant down. I'm questioning that, yes.
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If I overpowered a cop that was 5'7" and 165lb and went for his gun, in an area that hated the police etc, right after I robbed a store, what would I expect?
Seriously. The "kids" stature was not childlike at all. I think a a shot or two max.
Side note, with all this technology we have these days, is there not a weapon that can just knock the person out? Even if it shot darts or something. Non lethal but still immobilizing. The shite has to be out there.
Cop was in a tough spot. Who knows what's going through his head, as he gets attacked in that part of town. If he didn't shoot him when Brown was coming back at him, what other options did he have? Any ideas?
Perhaps could have driven away while getting attacked in the car?
Tough calls to make.
If I overpowered a cop that was 5'7" and 165lb and went for his gun, in an area that hated the police etc, right after I robbed a store, what would I expect?
Seriously. The "kids" stature was not childlike at all. I think a a shot or two max.
Side note, with all this technology we have these days, is there not a weapon that can just knock the person out? Even if it shot darts or something. Non lethal but still immobilizing. The shite has to be out there.
Cop was in a tough spot. Who knows what's going through his head, as he gets attacked in that part of town. If he didn't shoot him when Brown was coming back at him, what other options did he have? Any ideas?
Perhaps could have driven away while getting attacked in the car?
Tough calls to make.
Easy answer: 89%.
I'm not condoning his actions. I'm also calling BS on the Cop claiming this was entirely and only self defence. Bullshit it was.
Btw, why does there have to be one guy to blame for his death? Now I'm curious...
You're welcome, Regs. TTP hasn't been this hopping since the I-tie threads.
I'm not condoning his actions. I'm also calling BS on the Cop claiming this was entirely and only self defence. Bullshit it was.
Btw, why does there have to be one guy to blame for his death? Now I'm curious...
You're welcome, Regs. TTP hasn't been this hopping since the I-tie threads.
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This is not about the shooting/justification of said event when you think about it. That is why those a bit more obtuse than others hitch their emotions to this as a lightning rod for what is really the issue here.
It is about something else. Which is the really the elephant in the room.
Sir M
It is about something else. Which is the really the elephant in the room.
Sir M
No elephant for me. I think he plunked a few extra rounds into him because he was black. Plain and simple.
There was a self defence element, sure, but bloody hell, he sure made for certain he was dead, didn't he?
Anyhow, dead horse in the thread, too.
There was a self defence element, sure, but bloody hell, he sure made for certain he was dead, didn't he?
Anyhow, dead horse in the thread, too.
