Well you are welcome to drop by one of our practices next week and you can chat with our Italian friend. It might be good for you and your awakening. We can chat also about the assistant nor showing up, the lack of coin toss, and the referee picking up a Coquitlam fan to do the line without telling us. If you have video or picture evidence then it would be appreciated. Otherwise, I will go with the word of the players. They (specially the back line) truly have a case to be pissed over the way the referee handled the situation of no assistant and arbitrarily picking sides.It's pretty much impossible as everyone said there wasn't except there is this guy, he's away, Estevan, and there's a super tiny chance that he took the flip, without telling us, and WATCH OUT...look over there...a friend from ITALY said we suck...and yeah. There's that. Cool story.
Well you are welcome to drop by one of our practices next week and you can chat with our Italian friend. It might be good for you and your awakening. We can chat also about the assistant nor showing up, the lack of coin toss, and the referee picking up a Coquitlam fan to do the line without telling us. If you have video or picture evidence then it would be appreciated. Otherwise, I will go with the word of the players. They (specially the back line) truly have a case to be pissed over the way the referee handled the situation of no assistant and arbitrarily picking sides.
We simply have a social system that has kept amateur, semi-pro, and pro level at a very low standards when compared to the rest of the world. Of course, most people do not see or acknowledge or even will fight those who are trying to awake others from the fantasy.
These type of incidents simply hightlight the more deeper and entrenched problems with our local soccer community.
I am glad that you mentioned it. This is one of the many weird things that I have encountered in Canadian soccer. People naively associate your level of professional playing soccer with your level of understanding and appreciation of the game.@Soccer Coach interesting your friend was laughing at the Whitecaps level of play.
Just curious what Pro team did he play on back on Italy? Please state his name so we can google the highest level of soccer he has played.
Oh well, it is time for another controversial post from @soccercoach.
At the end of the day, the referees are simply workers who are underpaid, under-supported, and abused. They deserve better wages, benefits, and more support from the league. This is why they are underperforming.
The VMSL has accumulated a significant amount of surplus money who is being kept "for the rainy day" and who has helped to pay other people.
These money comes directly from the backs of the referees.
The VMSL should invest back this accumulated money for the improvement and support of the referees.
Guys, just try to think rationally. The bulk of the money that the VMSL makes comes from the work of the referees. Every week literally thousands of hours of work from the referees makes possible the collection of revenues of the VMSL. Essentially the VMSL is accumulating every year a surplus at the expense of the referees.
I think that most of the players and teams would like to have better refereeing and this will only come with better wages and working conditions.
For instance, if a game gets cancelled, my understanding is that the referee does not get paid. He/she has spent on gas and time. I do not see this as fair.
Not many people want to referee because it is simply not a good deal. Come on guys, it does not take rocket science to see that there is an extraction of surplus value from the work of the referees and into the VMSL coffers.
I really do not see a problem with giving the referees a raise and paying for some supervision and assessments from the "rainy day fund". This is the "rainy" day.
Does someone has a copy of the financials of the VMSL?
Do not the board of directors receive an honorarium?? I believe all position do. Don't they??Fcuk, you are such a baby.
All he is saying is that there is a formal environment where you can:
You are completely disrespecting the fact that the guys on the BOD are volunteers. All Tremy is stating is that if you have ideas, fantastic, then have the balls to make a formal motion at the AGM. If you are so vocal here, then be vocal in the formal environment, where the league is forced to listen to, and consider, your ideas.
- Make a motion as a member.
- Run for a position on the BOD.
But, if you do this, come to the meeting with a plan, as in, motion to allocate $$$ (have a budget in mind, and come prepared, know how much the current revenue is) from the fine revenue to pay for the initiatives you suggest. Also, come w/ a clear understanding of the society bylaws.
This would be far more productive than your bitching, whining, and crazy conspiracy theories on TTP. Be productive, actually do something if you feel that strongly. You may be surprised, you may find some people actually like your ideas and will vote with you.
There you go, you are welcome for the free advice.
Holy shite. That almost a 200% increase. Lol. As a beer league hockey ref they get anywhere from $35-$50 per game.Your civility and thoughtfulness is always a surprise to me.
In your opinion, what would be a suggested parameter to determine more fair fees and wages for the referees? (i.e what share of revenue should be allocated to them?)
Would R: $200 and AR: $100 for Premier and R:$150 and AR: $75 for Division 1; and R: $100 for any other division?
I will take your advise. I will take the case to the AGM, but your thoughts and ideas are welcome.
True that and I doStick to ref-fing hockey then. "ref44" . Hockey ref gets 35-50 for a 60 minute game.The soccer guys get 40-80 for 90 minutes. Hockey ref is always indoors and never have mother nature to deal with,soccer ref does-rain,wind,snow,freezing temperature,burning hot heat.most hockey rinks have dressing rooms for all 3 teams,soccer-very few places have dressing rooms.
Holy shite. That almost a 200% increase. Lol. As a beer league hockey ref they get anywhere from $35-$50 per game.
Here I will put it in a way u may understand. Too flipping much. Some games not sure there is a ref out there at all instead just a 12th man. And that goes both ways. We have been on the 12th side as well as against it. Too much inconsistency. As for an increase in pay for them that does mean that they improve their refffin just that they make more.Just wondering.............what is your take on the bcspl and there player fees.It sounds somethin like this, befor bcspl-$120 a season , after bcspl league is formed and going - from what i hear approximately $2500 .My math is not sow goud ,what is the percentage on that ?
let me remind you a game can not be played without a licensed referee.
My math is not sow goud