Colin Elmes
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My kids not with Fusion so I'm not too familiar with the club. Perhaps they're all referred to as Fusion?
Fusion is a stand alone HPL franchise. The only Fusion members are the HPL players
My kids not with Fusion so I'm not too familiar with the club. Perhaps they're all referred to as Fusion?
Fusion is a stand alone HPL franchise. The only Fusion members are the HPL players
hmmm..after more thought, this might just be making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Don't all of the BCSPL clubs have 'seperate' academies running to support and train the rest of the players / teams? It kind of appears to me that Fusion is simply holding an academy as they normally would and telling BCSPL players that if they want to jump in as well they can, if they choose to do so, they'll pay like everyone else as it is 'extra' for them on top of their X number of days they're already training.
Wouldn't the alternative be that the BCSPL players would simply expect to be able to attend any training that the club puts on and expect that their BCSPL fee should cover it?
This of course wouldn't be reasonable and none expect this.
I do get the quasi connection / reference you make to 'other sports' Colin but really these guys are just competing with TSS......bastards! ; )
As a matter of fact, we embrace competition- it makes us all better at what we do. I was just adding to the discussion about HPL players being asked to not participate in other team sport destinations in the earlier posts and bringing to light that Fusion doesnt seem to be following one of the league guidelines( no additional user pay destinations for players). We have our usual 700 + players in our program. The business of TSS is just fine.
Here some periodization for yah.
Fusion FC has just offered an academy on Sunday evenings. Current Fusion players are invited! and they have to pay!
Sorry Johnny, no extra sports for you, you must rest. Unless of course you are with us. Its ok if we run your bollocks off for another session a week. Oh and by the way, there is an extra fee. Your incentive is you dont pay for the kit(which you already have!!!
If you go read the FAQ for this new league it clearly states no extra user pay training for HPL players..."
Funny, I was going to start another thread on this topic, but only because I ran across the South Fraser FC Academy advertisement at BC Soccer Web. I was pretty sure Colin would get a kick out of this. BCSPL clubs may have academies, but academies may not have clubs.
I guess this is related for the current thread in that a club cannot be stating "no extra training, unless you pay us. Then it's okay."
I could not find the "no extra user pay training for HPL players" statement in the FAQ. I saw that it was optional, but not that it would not occur.
Funny, I was going to start another thread on this topic, but only because I ran across the South Fraser FC Academy advertisement at BC Soccer Web. I was pretty sure Colin would get a kick out of this. BCSPL clubs may have academies, but academies may not have clubs.
I guess this is related for the current thread in that a club cannot be stating "no extra training, unless you pay us. Then it's okay."
I could not find the "no extra user pay training for HPL players" statement in the FAQ. I saw that it was optional, but not that it would not occur.
Here some periodization for yah.
Fusion FC has just offered an academy on Sunday evenings. Current Fusion players are invited! and they have to pay!
Sorry Johnny, no extra sports for you, you must rest. Unless of course you are with us. Its ok if we run your bollocks off for another session a week. Oh and by the way, there is an extra fee. Your incentive is you dont pay for the kit(which you already have!!!
If you go read the FAQ for this new league it clearly states no extra user pay training for HPL players.
Fusion post:
Fusion FC Academy 2011-12
Fall and Winter Academy
Fall Academy – 10 Sessions
(Sundays: Sept 25, Oct 2, 16, 23, 30, Nov 6, 13, 20, 27, Dec 4)
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All sessions at King George Turf Field in Richmond
U10-U12 Boys and Girls – 5:00-6:30pm
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Fusion FC coaches will run sessions.
Focus is on individual development and specialized training
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Participants will have a chance at participating with the 2012 Fusion FC Spring Travel Teams
Prices:
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Please note: Fusion FC Academy is geared towards elite players. Players may be subject to an evaluation period. Players who are not suited for the Academy will be given a full refund after the evaluation period.
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Speaking of "playing other sports" there is a way to also look at it from a life-lesson POV.
How many adults do you know that do favourite job 1 in winter and favourite job 2 in summer? Or more accurately, do favourite job 1 Mon-Wed-Fri-Sun and Favourite job 2 Tues-Thurs-Sat???
Our TD was recently asked in a large group setting ( all boys and girls teams U13 - U14 at least, plus parents ) what the clubs policy was regarding playing school or other sports and I was satisfied with his answer.
He basically said that the club won't tell anyone they can't take part in other sporting activities as they have their value but that the player simply needs to be aware that with multiple activities come implications including; obviously time, rest and recovery, potential injuries etc.
In the case of injuries and rest and recovery, if the player get's hurt playing soccer for the school team and has to miss a month of BCSPL games and practices, then the player may need to determine for themselves whether it is / was worth it.
I am paraphrasing but that was the basic message and it was given very good naturedly and not as a scare tactic at all.
Seems just logical to me.
No offense.......but you're now REALLY grasping at straws. What does this have to do with a TEENAGER wanting to play other sports? Sports that they pay to play......not get paid for. I"m afraid your 'argument' is WAY off unless of course I misunderstood you?
That's logical enough. The player could also get hurt in HPL training and miss a month of the season........is practice worth it? Not a scare tactic but if my Aunt had bollocks........you know the rest.
You obviously did misunderstand.
It's a "life lesson." Which unfortunately too many people are abject to provide their kids in an age of "my kid deserves everything" regardless of if the kid deserves it at all. An age when kids are saluted just for going to school and thus doing exactly what it is they are supposed to be doing.
To be honest, your argument sounds of a high school coach who fears losing his best players.
Spend $2500 for BCSPL. Spend $XXX for high school sports. Regardless of the HS fee, it's a markedly lesser fee. So kid signs-up for BCSPL. Pays their fees. Signs up for HS sports. Pays their fees. Gets injured playing HS sports, which we all acknowledge is of a far lesser standard in general (obviously there might be exceptions). Kid says to BCSPL team "I can't play for the next XX time period - or play injured." Now they've played a "lesser value" sport and injured themselves at it AND thrown away their parents' hard-earned money because they can't play in the sport that cost them a great monetary value. And yes, I've seen kids put themselves in exactly this position and the look on their face when you ask them "what were you doing last weekend?" and their answer was "playing with another team and not resting like you suggested we do." Then again, that's an equally valuable lesson but unfortunately it is one that the parents have to pay - who also deserve it if they let their kid stretch themselves physically and mentally.
The same goes for if the kid signs up for HS sports, signs up for BCSPL, and then inevitably suffers fatigue or heaven-forbid an injury at BCSPL and thus still aren't getting their money's worth.
Not to mention that kids need rest periods MORE than adults do. Especially teenagers. Oh, and you know, time to do their home work not to mention the energy to do their home work.
It's simply my opinion that this is an extremely valuable lesson in time, energy, prioritization, and financial management for kids.
All this being said - if my teen wants to play multiple sports then they'll get Honour grades or do their very best to achieve those, AND, get a part-time job to help pay for this sport they so "desperately" need/want/deserve to play - or a near full-time job in summer. They can earn it just like you or I have to do to earn that new whatever-toy-you-prefer. Otherwise, establish your priorities, follow-through, and give your very best to those priorities.
...When the long distance franchise clubs have to make the long journies in bad snowy weather and some players only get a sm amount of playing time after 8 hr return journies and getting up early =12 hrs in total. 3 training sessions a week ,thats alot of time on school nights and ultimately school work will suffer .
Its early days and the good points :
Players selected for BCPSL are so excited that they have made the elite rosters.
For the parents its a prestige thing to tell other parents and friends that their son or daughter has been selected to the great BCPSL.
Problems will start when :
When the long distance franchise clubs have to make the long journies in bad snowy weather and some players only get a sm amount of playing time after 8 hr return journies and getting up early =12 hrs in total.
3 training sessions a week ,thats alot of time on school nights and ultimately school work will suffer .