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Div 1 [VMSL Div 1] Predictions, Results & Banter 2016/2017
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Canucks4Ever
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I saw this as well. Makes sense given the earlier discussion of Guilford potentially folding. CCB lost out on the whole Pacific break up in Prem last season (of course that has now gone 6 different directions with Langley/Tigers/Hurricanes all involved) and were no doubt looking to reestablish a top level adult program.
Whether or not they contend for promotion remains to be seen. Certainly last season they came out of the traps flying as the wonder kids who had been Provincial Champions at U21 and B level. They seemed like a tight group, good friends who had played together for years and had enough talent to actually be successful. It appeared they were on the rise and perhaps capable of achieving great things.
Alas, as it has so many times before, the reality of the Div 1 grind set in. The team faced serious adversity for possibly the first time in it's existence and could not cope. Cracks appeared, egos were bruised and lightening escaped the bottle. By the end of the season the team looked a shadow of their former selves, no where close to promotion even if their stat line from earlier in the season artificially indicated they were in the hunt. Fractured, they were in disarray heading towards an uncertain future; enter CCB. What now will rise from these ashes? We shall soon see.
What do you guys think? Do I get the job of "SoccerCoach"? I heard there was a vacancy for existential bullsh*t artist....
All the group needed was experience and once everyone sees the team they field on the pitch it will be clear the experience the squad will have.I saw this as well. Makes sense given the earlier discussion of Guilford potentially folding. CCB lost out on the whole Pacific break up in Prem last season (of course that has now gone 6 different directions with Langley/Tigers/Hurricanes all involved) and were no doubt looking to reestablish a top level adult program.
Whether or not they contend for promotion remains to be seen. Certainly last season they came out of the traps flying as the wonder kids who had been Provincial Champions at U21 and B level. They seemed like a tight group, good friends who had played together for years and had enough talent to actually be successful. It appeared they were on the rise and perhaps capable of achieving great things.
Alas, as it has so many times before, the reality of the Div 1 grind set in. The team faced serious adversity for possibly the first time in it's existence and could not cope. Cracks appeared, egos were bruised and lightening escaped the bottle. By the end of the season the team looked a shadow of their former selves, no where close to promotion even if their stat line from earlier in the season artificially indicated they were in the hunt. Fractured, they were in disarray heading towards an uncertain future; enter CCB. What now will rise from these ashes? We shall soon see.
What do you guys think? Do I get the job of "SoccerCoach"? I heard there was a vacancy for existential bullsh*t artist....
Canucks4Ever
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I see that you don't post here that often, so definitely welcome and please continue to banter with us, definitely not trying to cut you down at the knees.
My post was more directed towards those of us who lived through the reign of a certain former colleague (shall we say?), and less so actually about Guildford.
SmartCoach
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Welcome back you were missed last season
We had a Buffoon on here giving everyone a headache
You are a breath of fresh air
For your info Rino's Tigers have no connection to Bc Tigers from Surrey
Canucks4Ever
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SmartCoach
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Player injuries on our teams that played
Each other studs up and other stupid stuff
We might get more cards this season
Playing other Rino teams
Even cat played hard
Every team has something to prove
Who will be top who will be best coach
Each other studs up and other stupid stuff
We might get more cards this season
Playing other Rino teams
Even cat played hard
Every team has something to prove
Who will be top who will be best coach
Blue and White Army
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Was that a poem?
SmartCoach
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I failed poetry at school in London
Teacher did not get my ideas
Ruler on back of hand
Nasty old bag
SmartCoach
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Mess at VMSl office today teams that had downloaded on line that only came with cards have been sent away every day
Even though on email said form or scanned in ok
To bring copies of forms
Great way to piss off all the team managers and coaches that have put in a lot of work
Azzi does not understand on line registration and should have been replaced
Very hard to deal with
Vmsl office needs a computer
With Internet connection
Even though on email said form or scanned in ok
To bring copies of forms
Great way to piss off all the team managers and coaches that have put in a lot of work
Azzi does not understand on line registration and should have been replaced
Very hard to deal with
Vmsl office needs a computer
With Internet connection
Soccer Coach
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Different story here. All working perfectly. The VMSL is doing a great job.
Soccer Coach
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Dude, come on...
Is not a Haiku supposed to be in three lines with 17 syllabus (5-7-5), a seasonal reference and juxtaposed ideas or argents?
Like:
My heart beats and burns,
My restless soul craves and yearns
Through endless dreams I turn.
or
Cam-po won the cups;
Ri-nos was quite up-set
Win-ter brings them back
Now seriously guys. I wish all the best to all the teams. This time I am here in peace. I have reformed. No more instigations and controversial match reports.
It will a difficult season for us.
I predict that the animals (Tigers and Lions) will get promoted. In my opinion, Rinos-Tigers and Norvan-Lions are the favourites.
As for relegation. This is going to be difficult to predict. In theory, we are the weakest. I hope we survive.
Rino's Fury A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Binger's Army 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rino's Tigers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rino's Vanc SC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Campo Atletico A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
South Delta Royals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
FC Romania A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
GN Sporting Club 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
NVFC Norvan Lions A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CCB Guidlford FC A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Akal FC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Metropolitan A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Is not a Haiku supposed to be in three lines with 17 syllabus (5-7-5), a seasonal reference and juxtaposed ideas or argents?
Like:
My heart beats and burns,
My restless soul craves and yearns
Through endless dreams I turn.
or
Cam-po won the cups;
Ri-nos was quite up-set
Win-ter brings them back
Now seriously guys. I wish all the best to all the teams. This time I am here in peace. I have reformed. No more instigations and controversial match reports.
It will a difficult season for us.
I predict that the animals (Tigers and Lions) will get promoted. In my opinion, Rinos-Tigers and Norvan-Lions are the favourites.
As for relegation. This is going to be difficult to predict. In theory, we are the weakest. I hope we survive.
Rino's Fury A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Binger's Army 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rino's Tigers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rino's Vanc SC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Campo Atletico A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
South Delta Royals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
FC Romania A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
GN Sporting Club 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
NVFC Norvan Lions A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CCB Guidlford FC A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Akal FC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Metropolitan A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
trece verde
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Rumour has it that such a computer actually exists. How else do you think the old guys play solitaire and minesweeper?
You definitely did manage to get on somebody's worse side yesterday...
Received last night from Somebody Who Represents The League:
SmartCoach
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Azzi has been turning managers away
For days many guys have to come back second time
I also got the email from our new president and returned at 11.20 am same day
Azzi accepted my cards with no forms
He does not want to understand the concept of online registration
That it is on Vmsl server and if he logged like we all did he would see
The signatures for each player
This is beyond his capability
So the board needs a league Adminster
Now with intertnet at the office
I do not appreciate
Being told the F off and he is right
I have put my complaint in to the board on his very bad behaviour
This grounds for dismissal as I have a room full of witnesses including you
More fun and games this morning after I turned up without any printed registration forms and thought he was joking when he said they needed printed copies. in the end i just left them there for Catliff to pickup and deal with as he said he would.
Overheard the Snipers FC guy come in while i was in the back room and he had used the player reg forms from previous years and while you'd expect him to be told off for not following the 50 odd emails with clear instructions on how to register this year, Azzi was overjoyed and pretty much congratulated him when he saw ole faithful produced from a folder. Craziness, now to see if we actually get given any cards on time for Friday....
Overheard the Snipers FC guy come in while i was in the back room and he had used the player reg forms from previous years and while you'd expect him to be told off for not following the 50 odd emails with clear instructions on how to register this year, Azzi was overjoyed and pretty much congratulated him when he saw ole faithful produced from a folder. Craziness, now to see if we actually get given any cards on time for Friday....
Canucks4Ever
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Sounds like a sh*t show. Azzi should have been removed, or at the very least not left in charge of registration. All he does is create fires for Catliff to put out.
But he was up for reelection at this past year's AGM and not a single soul offered to oppose him. So really, at the end of this, we only have ourselves to blame.
But he was up for reelection at this past year's AGM and not a single soul offered to oppose him. So really, at the end of this, we only have ourselves to blame.
Canucks4Ever
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To get back on topic: Given how "well received" they were during cup season, I am going to issue my Completely Baseless Predictions for the season's final table. I'm not going to bother with Div 2 or 3 because 1) I REALLY don't no shite all about them, 2) There's way too many teams and groups and 3) Does Div 2 and 3 really matter? I mean Div 1 is kind of pushing it
Again, as usual, I am just pulling this out of my ass, so try not to take it too seriously (looking at you @nap)
So here goes:
1) Rinos Tigers
These kids had a helluva lot to learn, but after being the first team to go win less in the history of VMSL Premier they hit the books hard. The group rebounded by just about parading through the RRSL Div 1 Summer League and while no one is saying that summer league is in any way an indication of a team's strengths, they did match up against sides that they will be seeing in one form or another in the winter and they saw them off with conviction. I expect a year's playing experience, plus some success, combined with playing in a lower division should be enough so long as the group has their own internal ambitions pushing from within. Oh and of course all the "Saudi Money" and "Internal Collusion"
2) NorVan Lions
This spot is really up for grabs IMO. As far as I know NorVan's A program has undergone a full back room overhaul, but what of the players? Have they been able to keep their core mostly in one piece? Is there a desire to atone for getting the club relegated? I'm not convinced they have enough to bounce back up, but I am less convinced that there is a true challenger for the spot in the division. I would not be shocked to see NorVan mired in Div 1 for a time, but in the absence of an overwhelming favourite to challenge for second, I am tempted to default to the recently relegated team.
3) CCB Guilford
A great debut season for a powerhouse Div 2 team fizzled out down the stretch in the second half of the season. Div 1 is a grind with zero margin for error and in the end it proved too much. Now a make over, a merger and rumors of high profile exits to Premier teams. This team will be competitive, but with all the turn over are there enough parts remaining to be able to draw on last season's experiences? I'm not convinced. If there does exist enough of the core to build on that first campaign then I think there is every chance this team can pip NorVan for second. However, I am more inclined to think that THIS year will act as a foundation for a strong promotion push NEXT season.
4) South Delta
Quietly had a strong consolidation campaign last season after coming up from Div 2. Nobody is talking about these guys, but they have some half decent players and definitely a strong cooler camaraderie. These guys have grown up playing together and built a good little club out in Tsawwassen. Now the fruits of their labour are coming good and this would appear to be their "golden generation." The problem with SD is usually discipline. Suspensions piled up and hurt them during the back half of last season, so we'll see if they have learned to reel it in at all. I would be truly stunned if it was good enough to have them in the Premier conversation, but no reason to think these guys are going to take a step backwards.
5) Campo Athletico
OK yes, you can be underdogs, but can we please be realistic with the rhetoric? Despite not earning promotion via winning the league, Campo won the League Cup and Provincial Cup at the Div 2 level. These guys have proven they can play and that their players have enough talent to score goals in big games. The organization, tactics, desire and even the "coaching" of this team will help them pick up points all season. They could easily finish in 3rd or 4th. So yes "underdogs", but promotion underdogs, not relegation underdogs.
6) Metropolitan
A dismal season last year saw Students just the right side of the relegation line, but here's banking that was an aberration. The guys at Metro have worked hard into building that club into a VMSL mainstay and it appears to be gaining traction. Rumors their one or two superstars have finally left for Premier teams, but these guys seem focused on building a club mentality and tapping into the old "whole is greater than the sum of it's parts" mantra. Nothing attractive about their game style, but they're tough defensively and can score on set pieces (aka they are built for Div 1). I am predicting a bounce back season as Students begin to look up the table in coming years, rather than down it.
7) Bingers Army
The VMSL Div 1 poster boys for what seems like a century. Another year older with no natural youth links means chances are the back half of the season will be a grind as always for the Army. These guys are great lads and a dying breed; guys who are just in it to see their mates on the weekend, play footy and have a pint. Veterans that will take points off at least one of the promotion candidates at some point; Bingers are the prototypical Div 1 spoilers. Doubt they will have the same sort of dream first half that saw them top the table until Christmas last year, but I would be shocked to see them in a relegation battle.
8) Rinos Fury
A tight group willing to go to the mat for each other all season. These lads have fought hard to earn the right to play at this level and look for this fixture to be a tough one for every team week in and week out. Div 1 will definitely be a class above what they are used to so expect tough slogging all season. That being said I back these guys to have enough heart, grit and determination to find the points they need to stay in the division.
9) Rinos Vancouver SC
The forgotten child. Like the oldest kid when two divorcees get married; with a younger step brother who kicks and claws for all the attention and now a new baby who is the formation of a new family, the eldest child is left to figure out life essentially alone. OK, so maybe that metaphor is a bit of a stretch, but my point is these guys finished 8th last season, only won 6 games and were right on the threshold of being dragged into a relegation battle. I don't know where they would have recruited players from, with the Tigers surely attracting anyone with Premier ambitions and the Fury guys being their own distinct brotherhood. I say these guys are prime relegation candidates, but I'll bank on them having just enough to pull it out of the fire.
10) Akal
Finished 9th last season, not sure there is any reason to expect a drastic improvement for this campaign. If they can continue to have one or two star quality players who can win them close games they should find enough points to stay in the division. I expect them to be right in the relegation mix all season long however.
11) GN Sporting
Total wild card here. If getting back to Div 1 tempts back some of the best players from their community then they could easily finish comfortably out of relegation. If they come up with the same team that squeeked out a Div 2 Championship when Campo slipped up, then I see them battling their local rivals Akal to the bitter end for the last spot in the division. Glad to see the Akal/GN derby is back on the menu this season though, always good.
12) Romania
Finished 7th last season with 22 points, but 7 of those points came in their final 3 games of the season thanks to two abandonments and a make up half game against Guilford that I'm not sure even got played. Without those 7 points they finish on 15 and are dead last. They are old and don't seem to have any organization, ambition or direction. No idea where they would have recruited from. Again I don't know that for sure, perhaps they have been reinvented after last season, but if not, I don't see them lasting in Div 1.
Last season was truly a remarkable Division 1 campaign. It would be incredible to see a repeat of that level of intensity at the top of the table and I think it's unrealistic to expect it. If we could get 60%-70% of that kind of drama though, it should be a very entertaining year!
Stay tuned for my Completely Baseless Predictions for Premier (I know you're all on the edges of your seats...). Those are coming latter this week...assuming I have time and nothing better to do...
Again, as usual, I am just pulling this out of my ass, so try not to take it too seriously (looking at you @nap
)So here goes:
1) Rinos Tigers
These kids had a helluva lot to learn, but after being the first team to go win less in the history of VMSL Premier they hit the books hard. The group rebounded by just about parading through the RRSL Div 1 Summer League and while no one is saying that summer league is in any way an indication of a team's strengths, they did match up against sides that they will be seeing in one form or another in the winter and they saw them off with conviction. I expect a year's playing experience, plus some success, combined with playing in a lower division should be enough so long as the group has their own internal ambitions pushing from within. Oh and of course all the "Saudi Money" and "Internal Collusion"
2) NorVan Lions
This spot is really up for grabs IMO. As far as I know NorVan's A program has undergone a full back room overhaul, but what of the players? Have they been able to keep their core mostly in one piece? Is there a desire to atone for getting the club relegated? I'm not convinced they have enough to bounce back up, but I am less convinced that there is a true challenger for the spot in the division. I would not be shocked to see NorVan mired in Div 1 for a time, but in the absence of an overwhelming favourite to challenge for second, I am tempted to default to the recently relegated team.
3) CCB Guilford
A great debut season for a powerhouse Div 2 team fizzled out down the stretch in the second half of the season. Div 1 is a grind with zero margin for error and in the end it proved too much. Now a make over, a merger and rumors of high profile exits to Premier teams. This team will be competitive, but with all the turn over are there enough parts remaining to be able to draw on last season's experiences? I'm not convinced. If there does exist enough of the core to build on that first campaign then I think there is every chance this team can pip NorVan for second. However, I am more inclined to think that THIS year will act as a foundation for a strong promotion push NEXT season.
4) South Delta
Quietly had a strong consolidation campaign last season after coming up from Div 2. Nobody is talking about these guys, but they have some half decent players and definitely a strong cooler camaraderie. These guys have grown up playing together and built a good little club out in Tsawwassen. Now the fruits of their labour are coming good and this would appear to be their "golden generation." The problem with SD is usually discipline. Suspensions piled up and hurt them during the back half of last season, so we'll see if they have learned to reel it in at all. I would be truly stunned if it was good enough to have them in the Premier conversation, but no reason to think these guys are going to take a step backwards.
5) Campo Athletico
OK yes, you can be underdogs, but can we please be realistic with the rhetoric? Despite not earning promotion via winning the league, Campo won the League Cup and Provincial Cup at the Div 2 level. These guys have proven they can play and that their players have enough talent to score goals in big games. The organization, tactics, desire and even the "coaching" of this team will help them pick up points all season. They could easily finish in 3rd or 4th. So yes "underdogs", but promotion underdogs, not relegation underdogs.
6) Metropolitan
A dismal season last year saw Students just the right side of the relegation line, but here's banking that was an aberration. The guys at Metro have worked hard into building that club into a VMSL mainstay and it appears to be gaining traction. Rumors their one or two superstars have finally left for Premier teams, but these guys seem focused on building a club mentality and tapping into the old "whole is greater than the sum of it's parts" mantra. Nothing attractive about their game style, but they're tough defensively and can score on set pieces (aka they are built for Div 1). I am predicting a bounce back season as Students begin to look up the table in coming years, rather than down it.
7) Bingers Army
The VMSL Div 1 poster boys for what seems like a century. Another year older with no natural youth links means chances are the back half of the season will be a grind as always for the Army. These guys are great lads and a dying breed; guys who are just in it to see their mates on the weekend, play footy and have a pint. Veterans that will take points off at least one of the promotion candidates at some point; Bingers are the prototypical Div 1 spoilers. Doubt they will have the same sort of dream first half that saw them top the table until Christmas last year, but I would be shocked to see them in a relegation battle.
8) Rinos Fury
A tight group willing to go to the mat for each other all season. These lads have fought hard to earn the right to play at this level and look for this fixture to be a tough one for every team week in and week out. Div 1 will definitely be a class above what they are used to so expect tough slogging all season. That being said I back these guys to have enough heart, grit and determination to find the points they need to stay in the division.
9) Rinos Vancouver SC
The forgotten child. Like the oldest kid when two divorcees get married; with a younger step brother who kicks and claws for all the attention and now a new baby who is the formation of a new family, the eldest child is left to figure out life essentially alone. OK, so maybe that metaphor is a bit of a stretch, but my point is these guys finished 8th last season, only won 6 games and were right on the threshold of being dragged into a relegation battle. I don't know where they would have recruited players from, with the Tigers surely attracting anyone with Premier ambitions and the Fury guys being their own distinct brotherhood. I say these guys are prime relegation candidates, but I'll bank on them having just enough to pull it out of the fire.
10) Akal
Finished 9th last season, not sure there is any reason to expect a drastic improvement for this campaign. If they can continue to have one or two star quality players who can win them close games they should find enough points to stay in the division. I expect them to be right in the relegation mix all season long however.
11) GN Sporting
Total wild card here. If getting back to Div 1 tempts back some of the best players from their community then they could easily finish comfortably out of relegation. If they come up with the same team that squeeked out a Div 2 Championship when Campo slipped up, then I see them battling their local rivals Akal to the bitter end for the last spot in the division. Glad to see the Akal/GN derby is back on the menu this season though, always good.
12) Romania
Finished 7th last season with 22 points, but 7 of those points came in their final 3 games of the season thanks to two abandonments and a make up half game against Guilford that I'm not sure even got played. Without those 7 points they finish on 15 and are dead last. They are old and don't seem to have any organization, ambition or direction. No idea where they would have recruited from. Again I don't know that for sure, perhaps they have been reinvented after last season, but if not, I don't see them lasting in Div 1.
Last season was truly a remarkable Division 1 campaign. It would be incredible to see a repeat of that level of intensity at the top of the table and I think it's unrealistic to expect it. If we could get 60%-70% of that kind of drama though, it should be a very entertaining year!
Stay tuned for my Completely Baseless Predictions for Premier (I know you're all on the edges of your seats...). Those are coming latter this week...assuming I have time and nothing better to do...
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