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[VMSL Masters Premier] Predictions, Results & Banter 2011/2012
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It looks like I'll be reffing West Van for the first time ever on Friday...........
Btw way Sir M. I'm sober. 1 Large cup of coffee...
Why doesnt the vmsl just make it 10-0... Wow, thats a crock to me...... If the score is and was 0-0 in a Abd game. WV gets the win. It should only be 1-0 WV. So SU walks off the pitch with 8 guys. So the Vmsl decides to punish them 1 goal for every player missing..
Sounds like the Vmsl is doing whatever they wish...
If CS or Walks could comment , that would be great... My refs ticket is expired so im not sure..........
I hope goal difference isnt a concern @ the end of the year....
Deucy
Deuce, the game was ABD because of SU walking off the field in protest of the ref. Most leagues locally that I'm aware of have been awarding 3-0 victories for forfeits, defaults.The reasoning behind this makes sense to me. WV may have scored more than 3-0 with SU short 3 players in a 90 min game. To play Devils advocate maybe SU steals a point and gets a tie or a win, but in the end none of us will ever know. The reason why..... is because SU chose to walk off the field not WV. Goal differential is usually one of the tie breaking points with teams that are tied in points at the end of a season. I know it's not the first one but it is generally the second or third rule in determining placement order.
Deucey ....... the VMSL has the final & only say in this. Referees (& ex-referees in my case
) only file a match report and it's then up to the league to decide.Cheers, Walks
My understanding is that when a game is abandoned (for reasons other than default) with the second half not started, that game will be replayed. If the second half has kicked off then the score stands as the final result. Perhaps that was what SU was trying to accomplish?
Perhaps the VMSL can update its constitution?
Firstly, I wasn't there to partake in this fiasco. Secondly, by no means do I or anyone on our team feel any satisfaction in the way we decided to handle a rapidly deteriorating situation. Thirdly, I will reserve comment about the official. Fourthly, we honestly felt we needed to cut our losses and get out of Dodge to survive and live another day. Fifthly, by all accounts we were outplaying you Sir M and out-chancing you. This has been conveyed to me by even our own worst critics. Regardless, it doesn't quite jive with why a team that was very much in the game had to resort to what we did. Sixthly, your comments about "fouling all over the place" seem to be in COMPLETE contradiction to what I have been told by everyone. My seventh point has to do with what I would call "contradictory" and "arrogant" tones to your comments. We are middle aged men who can read between the lines. It's insulting.
Finally, no team should ever walk off a pitch, and to expand on this, feel the need to walk off the field. We were wrong to do so and in the heat of the moment, it seemed as if it was the ONLY solution to address the problems at hand. Your comments on this forum wreak as opportunistic and of kicking someone when they are down. We have handled this internally and are a proud team and club. The last thing we wanted to do is embarass our club. Believe it or not, wrong as it was, we actually believed we were preserving our club. We were wrong either way, but I think we took the lesser of two evils.
Without saying anymore, analyze what transpired and I certainly don't expect us to agree on all points. But you were baiting us on this site before we knew what our punishment would be from the league. This had NOTHING to do between West Van and SU Masters. This was between the official and SU Masters.
On to the next game less three players. I hope we have learned our lesson.
This is the last and only time I will comment on this but I had to say something to give a bit of perspective from our team. We answer to the league and to our club. We accept that fully.
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All fairly correct BB except for the SU out playing WV part, the chance that has been referred to is when Arnie studded Planks in the chest, that was pretty well it for SU. I am not kicking anyone when they are down, SU were fully responsible for their own behaviour: as you say we are grown men.
It is history now BB, I was not disrespecting SU, I am calling it as it happened. But I can say with a couple weeks before Western Nationals, it would have been nice for the opponents to play us for more than 35 minutes. You have to wonder, further, if one side had so much of the run of play as your friends (in my view who hold quite an inaccurate view) and to say that there was no fouling (very inaccurate) , why that side took 8 or 9 yellows in half an hour, (the other side took none) with the final yellow being after they got upset after fouling the WV attacker 22 yards out and kicked th
e ball off the field, and that was it? Not sure that you are getting the real story.
There could be some ugly suspensions coming up I think.
Anyway, I could go on, but I will leave it at that.
It is history now BB, I was not disrespecting SU, I am calling it as it happened. But I can say with a couple weeks before Western Nationals, it would have been nice for the opponents to play us for more than 35 minutes. You have to wonder, further, if one side had so much of the run of play as your friends (in my view who hold quite an inaccurate view) and to say that there was no fouling (very inaccurate) , why that side took 8 or 9 yellows in half an hour, (the other side took none) with the final yellow being after they got upset after fouling the WV attacker 22 yards out and kicked th
e ball off the field, and that was it? Not sure that you are getting the real story.
There could be some ugly suspensions coming up I think.
Anyway, I could go on, but I will leave it at that.
Ballbaby said:
Knowing you BB, really disappointed with yours comments. One point is clear though, the SU Master team let down a CLUB, a club that its directors and COACHES at all levels (you included) had worked so hard to build a reputation, a club which have won NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS.
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Huh?
Planks got studded on a toe poke shot by Arnie? What? There was a different chance in the box I believe Arnie was called for a foul but that's not the point-blank shot Planks saved.
We received 7 yellows in under 10 minutes, none of them for fouls I believe - yes, I realize that is probably worse but don't twist the number to try and support your posturing here.
And to characterize the last yellow the way you do is borderline idiotic. EVERYONE on the park knew that was a dodgy call by Miro. It's the first thing Besty said to me as I walked onto the pitch to shake hands. Free kick, player touches ball, Carson runs in thinking it is now in play and hammers the ball.
Stop being such a prick on this game. Yes, our actions embarrassed our club just as your continued comments are starting to embarrass yours.
Obviously we couldn't keep our mouths shut when needed, why can't you do the same?
I will say that we weren't outplaying WV, in fact I would say 60-40% possession in your favour however I do think in that 35 minutes we had more clear-cut opportunities to score.
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All this banter has led me to believe that Sir M is arrogant, contradictory, an instigator and kicks people when they are down. Just
my opinion.
my opinion.
This has all the makings of a good old . . .
Seinfeld - Raquel Welch Catfight - YouTube
Little do people know, but right after this incident, Elaine received a straight Red card.
Seinfeld - Raquel Welch Catfight - YouTube
Little do people know, but right after this incident, Elaine received a straight Red card.
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