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In these days of the post-Napster era, what software are you using? Still Napster? Audio-Galaxy? iMesh? WinMX?

Personally, I've been on the WinMX bandwagon since Luch orginally posted about back on the new Auld Forums. IMO, it's 10 times better than Napster was.

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WinMX.

I love the feature that allows you to resume downloading in case the person you're connected to takes off. I've got three movies with that feature so far. Great stuff.
 

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Kazaa is a pretty cool filesharing software program that is excellent for downloading video files. I have collected every episode of "The Family Guy", arguably the greatest cartoon sitcom this side of the Simpsons. You can get the link for downloads at http://www.kazaa.com

That is all.
 

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Morpeheus

Morpheus is a great program can be used to download a variety of stuff video, music, images, software etc.
quick and has a large data base of song to select from, even bagpipes for those in the mood

you can get it at www.musiccity.com
takes no time to download as long as you aren't using a 14.4 still

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I'll take WinMX anyday thank you very much.

Bottom line ... I'm sure others are good, perhaps even better, but at the mo, I'm getting everything I want whenever I want it from WinMX and just cant be fcuked to use anything else.

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WinMX kicks some serious ASS!
If you haven't tried it then you seriously should. I still haven't been able to get any full length movies yet. (Damn bastards always want to trade.) How can I trade if I can't get one in the first place. This may be slightly off topic but does anyone know any programs that you can use to rip DVD movies??? There's a full length movie of your choice from my collection if I can get it to work.

Anyways as I was saying

WINMX! WINMX!
 

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Is WinMX still out there?

Music site Morpheus locks out users


By John Borland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
February 26, 2002, 7:40 PM PT


update StreamCast Networks' Morpheus--a file-swapping service that many have said would be impossible for courts to shut down--shut out most of its users Tuesday, citing "technical problems."

Computer users trying to log on to the service were greeted with a message telling them to upgrade their software to connect, although no newer version of the software was available. The outage immediately sparked a huge increase in traffic on alternative file-swapping services, such as Gnutella.

In a statement, StreamCast blamed Kazaa, another file-swapping company that had provided the basic software that served as the foundation of the Morpheus program. Kazaa and fellow software licensee Grokster have recently upgraded their software, while StreamCast has not.



"Unfortunately, Kazaa's recent upgrade has made Kazaa's and Grokster's new versions incompatible with Morpheus," the company said in its statement. "As a result, we are accelerating the release of our new Morpheus software and within days expect Morpheus users to enjoy the Morpheus Preview Edition."

That new software, the company said, would operate using an "open protocol" network. That typically means that different software companies can write pieces of software that talk to each other. The network used by Kazaa, Grokster and until now by Morpheus, is a closed protocol network in which each company has to license the software from the owners.

StreamCast has said it would add support for the open-source Gnutella network in future versions of its software. Streamcast executives could not immediately be reached to provide details on the new software.

A Streamcast move entirely to Gnutella or another open protocol network would send a shock wave through the file-swapping community.

Together, Kazaa, Morpheus and Grokster had created a joint network that neared or even exceeded the size of Napster at its peak. Anyone using any of the three programs could search other users' computers.

The Morpheus software appeared to be the most popular of the three, however. According to Download.com, which keeps a count of people downloading the software, Morpheus has been downloaded more than 51 million times.

Kazaa has seen more than 37 million downloads, while Grokster has seen just over 1 million, according to the site. Download.com is a division of CNET Networks, the publisher of News.com.

Moving Morpheus users to a Gnutella-based network could also prove technically difficult. The open-source Gnutella technology has had difficulties with large numbers of visitors in the past and has stumbled when heavy use overloaded the network. Some of those problems have been addressed in more modern versions of Gnutella software.

Gnutella software was one benefit of the Morpheus outage, however. According to statistics kept by Limewire, a distributor of Gnutella software, the number of people using Gnutella at the same time jumped by well over 50 percent, to more than 100,000 people, by the end of the day Tuesday.

StreamCast, along with Kazaa and Grokster, is being sued in Los Angeles federal court by the big record labels and movie studios, which contend that the services are contributing to widespread copyright infringement. The two sides are scheduled to meet in court March 4.
 

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crap

WinMX audio certainly sucks right now, must be all the bandwagon'ers logging on.

I've had connections since 12noon today and only a quarter of the songs were completed...(12:50am the next damn day)

I guess I'm off to the bargin bin at L*nd*n Drgs or Zelle**
 

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Kazaa News article from NY Times

In Free Music Software, a Hidden Fee-Based Service

By MATT RICHTEL

Twenty million users of Kazaa, a popular Internet network that lets people freely exchange music files online, have unknowingly received software that could make them participants in a second network - one that plans to charge them fees for access to songs, movies and other media.

The pay software's creator, Brilliant Digital Entertainment (news/quote), said that it intended to send an update to the users' computers to activate the pay network, called Altnet, within the next six weeks.

Kevin G. Bermeister, chief executive of Brilliant Digital, which is based in Los Angeles, said that users of Kazaa would be given the option of activating Altnet.

Any user who decided to do that would then have two simultaneous networks running: the one the person initially chose, which allows the free exchange of songs, and another that would charge for songs.

Mr. Bermeister said Altnet would provide a platform through which record labels and other media companies could charge for their copyrighted material.

The online music experience will "be back in the content owners' control," he said.

Although that might be thought to please record companies, a spokesman for the Record Industry Association of America, Matthew J. Oppenheim, said the industry was still trying to understand the deal.

The industry has sued Kazaa, saying its service abets rampant music piracy, which costs the record companies tens of millions of dollars.

There was also no clear explanation of why consumers would want to pay for songs on Altnet that they could already get at no charge through Kazaa.

Mr. Bermeister said users might be persuaded to purchase songs because they would find the quality of those songs - which would be monitored for quality - higher than the quality of the music copies they downloaded from strangers.

The Kazaa network is operated by Sharman Networks, based in Sydney, Australia, and Brilliant Digital is a Sharman partner.

To a typical consumer who downloaded Kazaa from the Web, Brilliant Digital was largely invisible. It was the provider of software used to display advertising to users of Kazaa, which was supposed to be supported by advertising.

The inclusion of software to create a second network - embedded within the Brilliant Digital software - was first disclosed yesterday on CNet's News.com.

The Brilliant Digital plan also envisioned compensating some users who would permit their computers to be used as special hubs for the distribution of content like advertising and music files. That disclosure quickly brought hundreds of online comments, many of them critical, from Kazaa users who objected to what some described as "sneakware."

Mr. Bermeister said the inclusion of the Altnet component had been done with the full knowledge of Sharman Networks and its chief executive, Nikki Hemming.

Mr. Bermeister said that he and Ms. Hemming were close friends and that he had encouraged her to make Sharman's investment in the Kazaa technology. A spokesman for Sharman Networks declined to comment on the issue.

Brilliant Digital filed a statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission to explain its intention to deploy Altnet. It said the company was doing so with cooperation from Sharman Networks.

But the move raises the question of whether the Altnet network could supersede Kazaa; Mr. Bermeister was apparently retained to build an advertising base for Kazaa. Mr. Bermeister said it was possible that "to some extent" Altnet would make Kazaa irrelevant.
 

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changing landscape of file sharers

I went from napster , dabbled in imesh and winmx, had some success with audiogalaxy, and then settled with Morpheus...which has been good...downloaded the new version, don't really like it as much - could be for cosmetic reasons. I'd like to hear from someone who has tried a variety and knows the difference.
Or am I splitting hairs.
 

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Or am I splitting hairs.
I appreciate your humour, Aves :D

I've been converted over to Kazaa [as mentioned last summer by Sensei above]... this was after Morpheus shut down awhile back.

So far, so good.

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Gnutella

I'm on a Mac and the choices are a little more limitted but I use LimeWire which is a Gnutella client. There are some tricks you can do to up the search yields. The nice thing about it is that you can get anything digital over the Gnutella network; songs, applications, videos whatever.
 

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Peter,

I believe Kazaa piggybacks on that network as well... thanks to Jinky yesterday, the service is 100 times better than before for me and I've found tonnes of useful applica... erm, cute poems.

I think a MAC version is coming out soon.

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Regs,

The same Kazaa mentioned in a previous article that loads a little more code than you bargained for? I hate shite like that! There are a lot of Gnutella clients out there for all platforms.

I just got a Mac OSX native version of Hotline as well but that network is pretty much diluted with people looking to make a buck out of running servers. But if you can get a user/password for a good Hotline site, it's not a bad way to go...
 

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Yeah I read that article a day or so before it was posted but I'm not too worried about it at this point. If it becomes a problem in the future it'll be gone.

I don't actually use it enough to really care. There are only so many good poems out there :D

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Kazaa basically blew up on me one day and I haven't used it since. Although all the Family Guy episodes are still intact.

WinMX is still the best file-sharing program around. I hooked up to a server called "ItaliaNap" and the stuff I'm able to access from that is amazing. Although I fear I might be fraternizing with Italians, and I try to limit that to summer soccer.

Forza Downloads.
-Sensei.
 

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For the privacy advocates...

How to delete the 'Brilliant Digital' files from your windows computer safely

As always, it's a good idea to make a backup of any critical files before proceeding.

1. In the Windows Control Panel, select an option called "Add/Remove Programs." One of the options will be "b3d Projector." Highlight this and click the "Change/Remove" button.

You may get a message that the uninstall has been successful. Search your computer for a "BDE" folder, which most likely will be found in the "WinNT" or "Windows" directory. In this folder will be a file called "bdeclean.exe". Run this to finish the first part of the process. Delete the BDE folder.

Caution: An unrelated piece of software called Borland Database Engine also creates a BDE directory. If you think you may have this software installed, or if there is any confusion whatsoever, do not delete this directory.

2. In the "Temp" directory (this will normally be found inside the "Windows" or "WinNT" directory) is a folder called "Brilliant." This contains many files. Delete the entire folder.

3. After performing steps 1 and 2, you will need to locate and remove some additional Brilliant Digital files that have been placed in critical system-level computer directories. CAUTION: Deleting the wrong files could interfere with the normal functioning of your computer. These files will most likely be in the "WindowsSystem" or "WinNTSystem32" folder:

bdedownloader.dll
bdedata2.dll
bdefdi.dll
bdeinsta2.dll
bdeinstall.exe
bdesecureinstall.cab
bdesecureinstall.exe
bdeverify.exe
bdeverify.dll

Delete these files.
Problem solved.

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Just so you know

I do tech support for computer systems and on numerous occasions I have found computers that are totally messed up and had Kazaa installed on their computer. Most of the problems come from the additional software that gets installed along with the Kazaa software without you knowing.

For some additional information on this stuff check out this link.

Crap that comes with Kazaa

If you have Kazaa go to the Add\Remove programs in the Control Panel and look for the mentioned programs in the link above.
ie:Webhancer, Cydoor, New.net (this one is nasty).

:D

Yodawhohatestoseepeoplesufferwithcomputers.
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I do tech support for computer systems
Can I give Captain Shamrock your number then? I'm tired of receiving his whole hard-drive emailed to me in an attachment :rolleyes:

Thanks.

As for the Kazaa stuff, I was aware of most of that when I insalled the sucker and made sure not to accept anything other than the basic Kazaa client. But I could see how this could be a problem for those who are less computer savvy.

TTPers, all those porn links that you see scattered around the site are not my doing... you must have one of those piggyback programs :D

~TB.
 

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