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Premier Campbell charged with drunk driving

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Dude,

Whether we can or cannot afford to see yet another premier step down now, is besides the point. We cannot and did not choose the timing of his criminal actions; likewise, we cannot indiscriminately choose the timing of the consequences. Punishment should be swift and immediate.

So who would step in as a better premier? Well, how about anyone who could retain an ounce of public confidence when implementing past, present and future Liberal plans such as extending hours for alcohol consumption, establishing bars on ferries, building new liquor stores, and virtually any aspect dealing with ICBC?

Or maybe someone who isn't as hyprocritical as to demand the resignation of others but gloss over his own transgression (seeing as how he has only driven under the influence just this once :rolleyes: ).
 

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Originally posted by Dude-where'smycar?
Keeper,
Can you honestly say our Province can afford to have yet another premier step down right now, and if so, who in your mind is capable RIGHT NOW of taking over?

hmmm.....where should we start? How about with my pet dog !!!

I'm with Keeper on this matter. It's an embarrassement to the province to have your leader's mug shot indellibly etched into the nation's mind. I think anyone else could manage to piss off the majority of the province just as well as our smiling drunk premier. Can him!!!:mad:
 

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Dude,

do you seriously think the Liberal power brokers would have difficulty finding another yes-man to impliment policies that benefit big business' interests?

Gary Farrel Collins possesses all the 'qualities' neccesary to enact "Liberal" policies.

They may however doubt "Slaphead's" ability to win them re-election though.

Campbell should resign.
 

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Shocking!!!

People are killed everyday by drunk drivers! Usually the pissed idiot behind the wheel emerges without a blemish. No excuses, take a cab!
 

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Typical socialists attitudes…who cares what’s done for the common good of the province, as long as it’s good for the unions (me).

Ujjal Dosanjh was a “yes” man. Joy McPahil, a “yes” woman (many times over). Christie Clarke…no leadership qualities (I can’t believe a couple of years ago some were saying she had what it took to succeed Gordo).

Past leaders whom have shown strong leadership qualities: Mike Harcourt (whom I voted for), Glen Clarke (turned out to be the worst thing to happen to BC, though), Bill Vandersalm (charisma), and William A.C. Bennett (the best leader BC has had, from what I hear). Now really, besides Skip’s dog, who else has the nuts to take over for two years?

Collins hasn’t ever held a real job, I don’t think. Plus, he rode the Lib coattails into the Finance Minister’s seat. At least Campbell has the experience of being a party and political leader for a long time. He won't back down from a fight. To force him out now would be the worst thing we could do for our province. And yes, that is the point- the one that matters most.
 

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Don't you find it coincidental that each of those individuals you suggest have "shown strong leadership qualities" have all had to step down? It seems to me, then, that the last thing BC needs is yet another premier with strong leadership!

Why not Christy Clarke? Surely Campbell made her his Deputy for a reason.

Collins, on the other hand, can suck me sideways. Fcukin' weasel.
 

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I knew it!

Dude, there's a social conscience in there somewhere!

Past leaders whom have shown strong leadership qualities: Mike Harcourt (whom I voted for),

There's hope for you yet, you closet lefty.

I have lots more to say on the subject, but I'm a wee bit busy picking up my jaw from the floor, so I'll leave with a quick quote from the Sun (owned by that commie Izzy Asper). "It's hard to be simultaneously the top lawmaker and BC's best known criminal."

off to buy a t-shirt...
 

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W.A.C Bennett didn’t leave the office in disgrace, did he? I thought he retired? Before my time. I know Bill, his kid, resigned.

SYC- I don't know why you're so surprised...I've told you that before. I'm more of a reformist, than anything...a "Social Concervative".

Anyhow, the irony is disheartening. I still think Mike Harcourt was the best we had in recent history…a more center leaning NDPer than you’ll ever get. Clarke had charisma, for sure, but he turned out to be the worst wrecking ball the province has ever seen. He may not have been convicted, but I’m sure he can offer Gordo some tips on how to “simultaneously be the top lawmaker and BC's best known criminal." And Clarke committed his deeds, presumably, sober, and of sound body and mind.

Keeper: you still haven’t answered the question. I’m assuming you’d just as soon see the province run completely into the ground on all levels than to make a sound, clear decision on what actually is best for everyone.

Hey Skip- your mutt still available?
 

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Originally posted by Dude-where'smycar?
W.A.C Bennett didn’t leave the office in disgrace, did he? I thought he retired? Before my time. I know Bill, his kid, resigned.

Bill Bennet was a great premier and retired rather than resigned I believe.
If we could just go back to the days when he was in charge.
Quite frankly, it's gone completely downhill since the day he left.
That is not even debatable IMO.

Campbell, by all accounts, should resign.
He's bottled it (pardon the pun :p) and is the ultimate hypocrite.
He won't resign, and the Liberals at this point don't want him too.
The only reason he should stay is because this pathetic province can't afford any more changes.
The Liberals should look for a new leader possibly outside of the current MLAs who has experience with running a large company, etc. who doesn't envision himself as a ship builder with public money to be groomed as Campbell's successor.
Once done, can his fcuking ass like a tuna.
 

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Bill Bennett resigned, but had some insider trading investigations a couple of years ago. He was acquitted, but he sold a whack of Doman stock just before it went took a dive, and just after talking to owner and CEO Herb Doman. Just coincidence, apparently.
I believe he was barred from trading for a year even though he beat the criminal charges by lying and denying.

Gotta love BC politics.
 

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Your idea is sound Ranger, but it has a couple of flaws...

Many automatically assume the business sector as being somebody from the trading sector, but these guys may have big balls and aren't afraid to takes risks, but I'm not sure if they'd be acceptable to the work / reward system involved in public service.

An ideal candidate would be someone from the wood or materials handling sectors. If you can run a profitable mill in today's climate (and some still do), you're a miracle man. They're used to on-the-spot problem solving, and understand the importance of efficiencies and cost management. This type of person would be well rounded with union issues as well, and may not be so abrasive towards the SYCs of the world. They're also used to the demands of a 6 am- until-you-get-the-job-done kind of work schedule. Bottom line- they know how to make money (very important), but are also in touch with the "working man" (also important.

Or, one of the owners of Kelly's would do.;)
 

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Specialist looks at Premier's reading of .149
Jan 15 - 8:33:50PM
VANCOUVER (CKNW/AM980) -- A forensic alcohol specialist says the Premier would have had to have consumed three double martinis and five to eight glasses of wine, based on Gordon Campbell's reading of .149.

Nizar Shajani, who is often called to testify in court, says Campbell would have consumed 15.3 to 26 ounces of hard liquor.

He also says the Premier's blood alcohol reading would be between .159 and .169 at the time he was pulled over.

Campbell says he had three martinis and up to three glasses of wine.
Lush. :rolleyes:
 

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Pretty quiet last week and over the weekend about this...seems Gordo is getting a pretty easy ride by the local media.

I don't see this having a significant impact, looking at it now.
 

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Anolther day in Victoria

Well, well. Dude, you're certainly right about old Gordo the lush getting off easy, although it is my sincere hope that he is hounded by paraplegics and MADD supporters at every foaming-at-the-mouth speech he gives.

I, on the other hand, am drooling about the two juicy tidbits that came out on the news today (in addition to my red curry beef dinner, but I'll save that one for what's for lunch).

Our not-so-esteemed agriculture and fisheries minister was forced to resign as he's under investigatation in some fish farm affair. I do have some sympathy for the guy, though. Imagine the time he must have had as a kid with a name like Van Dongen. "Hey, Van Schlongen..."

Item number 2, the Delta South recall campaign has about
13 000 signatures, 1000 more than needed to boot the MLA out. More campaigns are on their way.:bronco:

Think Gordo wishes he didn't give up booze yet?
 

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Looks like all of Raef Maer's public slashing of Van Dongen (I would have nicked him The Dong) and the fish farm affair is finally paying off. He's been on that bent for a good few years now- every second show seems to have another guest telling us how bad the fish farms are.

Not that I don't believe any of it, but I just can't get up for fish farms. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess. The Dong is done though.

Keep the juicy tidbits that came out of your red curry beef dinner to yourself, thanks.
 

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You can listen to Raif Mair's initial reaction from Australia at the CKNW Audio Vault. Select Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 8am. Then fast forward to 48:40 in your media player.
 

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