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Pakenham Cup Pak Cup 2004
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There is a lot of whining on this thread with some good points and bad ones also. My opinion may be different but I believe it works.
I always thought a team was a group of guys that played together all year. If your team, whether it's CAT or Premier, relies on call ups every week than your not much of a team. Look at the teams who have won over the past few seasons. Rangers and Delta. Neither of these teams used a call up system other than in an emergency situation. They both succeeded as TEAMS, not a different group every week. This goes for the teams in lower divisions which have been successful over the past few years also such as the Lions, Storm and even us Highlanders. I am not sure how Poco & White Rock work but I am sure their premier teams are set player for player weekly. I also think their CAT teams are very similar?
The CAT system can be succesfull if used right. Pick a TEAM and then use the odd experienced player to help the younger guys learn and play as a TEAM. If your CAT team is half kids and half called down "premier" players every week than obviously your screwed when the Cups begin. This just shows your system is not working and you need to do more recruiting or drop your CAT team. It has nothing to do with how the Cup is run.
Just my two cents.
I always thought a team was a group of guys that played together all year. If your team, whether it's CAT or Premier, relies on call ups every week than your not much of a team. Look at the teams who have won over the past few seasons. Rangers and Delta. Neither of these teams used a call up system other than in an emergency situation. They both succeeded as TEAMS, not a different group every week. This goes for the teams in lower divisions which have been successful over the past few years also such as the Lions, Storm and even us Highlanders. I am not sure how Poco & White Rock work but I am sure their premier teams are set player for player weekly. I also think their CAT teams are very similar?
The CAT system can be succesfull if used right. Pick a TEAM and then use the odd experienced player to help the younger guys learn and play as a TEAM. If your CAT team is half kids and half called down "premier" players every week than obviously your screwed when the Cups begin. This just shows your system is not working and you need to do more recruiting or drop your CAT team. It has nothing to do with how the Cup is run.
Just my two cents.
Osame bin madden
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I have a lot to say about the whole system but l'll keep it mostly to myself. It is impossible to make it fair for everyone, when it comes to the cat/prem system. At some point is has to end, if both are playing for the pak. The teams with the most injuries or lack of players is going to suffer the most.Both of are teams will be hurt by this. Im wondering when the decision to let the cat teams play for the pak was done? It probably wouldn't of matter when the decision was done, partly because there is little you can do about injuries and so-on.As far as the draw, I have a problem with the byes. If you don't want seedings, thats fine,
but don't give cat or div 1 teams the bye.If you give teams the bye, it should be to the top teams in prem, this year.I don't know of too many leagues that allow their lower division teams to get byes before higher div teams...
Ps: Coach, can I get in this bet.....If we loose to the Raiders, not only will I pay up the beer , but quit coaching for ever.....
OOps, this could end up on the raiders locker room wall...
but don't give cat or div 1 teams the bye.If you give teams the bye, it should be to the top teams in prem, this year.I don't know of too many leagues that allow their lower division teams to get byes before higher div teams...
Ps: Coach, can I get in this bet.....If we loose to the Raiders, not only will I pay up the beer , but quit coaching for ever.....
OOps, this could end up on the raiders locker room wall...
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CAT teams should not be entered into your league cup under any circumstances. Imagine the tumoil it could cause within a club if a CAT team somehow manages to win it.
Then again, I seem to remeber reading something about the league not even wanting a CAT division this year. Perhaps this is the league's way of foreshadowing next year?
~Regs.
Then again, I seem to remeber reading something about the league not even wanting a CAT division this year. Perhaps this is the league's way of foreshadowing next year?
~Regs.
I agree
It could also be bad for some CAT players who are asked to sign for the Premier club permanently for cup and the CAT team struggles because of it.
I know that's how it's supposed to work but some people still get their knickers in a knot over it.
Can someone settle the argument once and for all.
If a player from CAT signs to a Premeir team for Cup, is he then only allowed to play Premeir for Cup or League as well.
I've heard both from diffenent people.
It could also be bad for some CAT players who are asked to sign for the Premier club permanently for cup and the CAT team struggles because of it.
I know that's how it's supposed to work but some people still get their knickers in a knot over it.
Can someone settle the argument once and for all.
If a player from CAT signs to a Premeir team for Cup, is he then only allowed to play Premeir for Cup or League as well.
I've heard both from diffenent people.
Re: Coach , Coach !
well rex there is only about three teams in div 1 ,, that maybe could pull of the upset. i thing must of the premier teams should come away with a win....
buhner looking forward to playing poco again ...:wa
Originally posted by Rex
Ha Ha Ha !
Your right they should win!
Remember were just one of those Div1 teams .
They are one of those premier teams that are so much better than us lonely Div 1 teams.
Cheers
Rex
well rex there is only about three teams in div 1 ,, that maybe could pull of the upset. i thing must of the premier teams should come away with a win....
buhner looking forward to playing poco again ...:wa
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suburbanator
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Re: I agree
During the REGULAR Season a player signed for CAT or PREMIER can play in either of the teams games or even both games. Once the deadline is reached, whatever team you are SIGNED for is the team you will represent in CUP Play. (But nothing changes for league play).
Premier teams will obviously sign the best 15-16 guys available amongst the two teams without disrupting team chemistry which is obviously equally important. I would imagine that a couple CAT players in most clubs would get the nod and sign premier for cup play just to add depth. The only unfortunate thing about this is playing time. It is possible that a top CAT player won't see any action durning the cup play, whereas he would probably play 90 mins in his respective CAT cup games. I am sure most club executive's will use judgement in determining where players should be signed, and if they don't they will join the ranks of the FVSL Exec trying to run the cat system out of town.
After all the season would be pretty much bust for a team that was left with 11 players, and obviously getting only a fair shake at one post-season match...
During the REGULAR Season a player signed for CAT or PREMIER can play in either of the teams games or even both games. Once the deadline is reached, whatever team you are SIGNED for is the team you will represent in CUP Play. (But nothing changes for league play).
Premier teams will obviously sign the best 15-16 guys available amongst the two teams without disrupting team chemistry which is obviously equally important. I would imagine that a couple CAT players in most clubs would get the nod and sign premier for cup play just to add depth. The only unfortunate thing about this is playing time. It is possible that a top CAT player won't see any action durning the cup play, whereas he would probably play 90 mins in his respective CAT cup games. I am sure most club executive's will use judgement in determining where players should be signed, and if they don't they will join the ranks of the FVSL Exec trying to run the cat system out of town.
After all the season would be pretty much bust for a team that was left with 11 players, and obviously getting only a fair shake at one post-season match...
Re: Re: Coach , Coach !
Hey buhner
First learn to spell before you speak you fcuking jackass !!!!
i thing - is that some sort of new chilliwack talk that you inbreds talk out there instead of english !!!
rexthinksbuhnerhasbeensniffingtomuchcowshiteoutinthewack!!!!
Cheers
Rex
Hey buhner
First learn to spell before you speak you fcuking jackass !!!!
i thing - is that some sort of new chilliwack talk that you inbreds talk out there instead of english !!!
rexthinksbuhnerhasbeensniffingtomuchcowshiteoutinthewack!!!!
Cheers
Rex
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