Canadian Premier League

[akslop]

@Dude you'll find your answer next time you go grocery shopping. Check and see if they still have Mr noodles oriental flavor.

 

[Dude]

@Dude you'll find your answer next time you go grocery shopping. Check and see if they still have Mr noodles oriental flavor.

I feel like this is a trick question.

 

[akslop]

I feel like this is a trick question.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental

see 3 and 4

 

[akslop]

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mrnoodles-oriental-flavour-instant-noodles/6000153706510

If it wasnt fo Mr noodles id have never survived my early 20's.

 

[Dude]

Well, now I feel like I've been a victim of a candid camera prank. "Let's pull a fast one on the good looking old guy with awesome hair."

Cnuts.

 

[Soccer Coach]

Well, I'm very confused on "Oriental".

• Wiki is always right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient. Nothing there about it being derogatory.
• Light shedding editorial: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html .

"President Obama recently signed a bill prohibiting use of the term in all federal documents." This was written in 2016, about the same time I so gracefully ate my foot. Explains a lot.

This explains why my Asian Canadian friends (not to be confused with my South Asian Canadian friends, like Gurps, otherwise known as "Brown Guys", or, "Dude's Extended Family") don't seem to give a flying fcuk about being referred to as Oriental. Apparently the Americans found a problem with it without first discussing it with the rest of the world's orie...erm, asians.

Mrs. Dude, for the record, takes exception to "South Asian", but allows "Micronesian", "Brown Lady", "Hawaiian Barbi" (she's not even Hawaiian), or "Fijian Princess" (thanks, Regs). She'll accept Fijian Canadian, but prefers Canadian above all else.

Also, I don't need a derogatory term to insult people, I am perfectly capable of calling them a cnut without having to resort to deliberate derogatory terms. For example: "@knvb is a cnut" has been popular for years.

@Dude, I really would encourage that you to reconsider the use of the word "oriental". Perhaps try to use the terms that Census Canada employs. It would be even better if you try not to reference the ethnicity of a person. It is just a human being, and hopefully we start to move towards societies where this is not an issue or noticed.

The problem is that the word "Oriental" is closely associated to a time in Canada/USA/UK where the general attitude was something like:

"As early as 1882 … Macdonald referred to the Chinese as “an inferior race,” “semi-barbarians,” or “machines with whom Canadians could not compete” but whose labour was necessary for railway construction. Moreover, Macdonald believed the Mongolian and Aryan races could never combine. In short, John A. Macdonald was a racist, but he was also a practical politician and nation-builder. Thus, he sympathized with British Columbia’s demands for Chinese restriction, and as soon as the railway was virtually complete, his government introduced a Chinese immigration Act. In 1885, Macdonald was a hero to many British Columbians: he had fulfilled the railway promise and his new immigration law seemed likely to permit white British Columbians to enjoy the benefits of Confederation without the fear of being overwhelmed by low-paid Chinese immigrants."

This is not an issue of the past. It still lingers in our society. I know that you will all get all up and down, but in the Canadian Soccer National Team there is NO one single individual of Asian descent or South Asian descent. Prejudice against those individual still exist on the Canadian soccer circles. It just manifest in subtle manners, but at the end those groups are been marginalized or excluded from the National Team. It is a form of institutionalized bias and prejudice.

@Dude, there is no need to insult people.

 

[akslop]

 

[akslop]

@Soccer Coach stop nagging @Dude its really annoying

 

[lego3]

You know you are old when political incorrectness comes so bloody easy.

I was at a sales meeting down south, chatting with one of the young lady engineers I deal with a lot. A few bevies had been consumed. She's about 30, I think her family originates from Korea, though she's second generation American. I made the mistake of pointing out she's of oriental ancestry. Well, that did not go over well.

"You can't say that."

"What, Oriental? But you are Oriental, just like I'm Caucasian, what's wrong with oriental?"

"Ummm...we say Asian. Oriental is like saying the 'N' word."

"No way...(pulls over Jim, tall white due in his 30s) hey Jim, can I say Oriental?"

"No, you can't say that."

"Oops."

@Gurps , can I say East Indian?

In US they prohibited to use Oriental word in all federal documents.

They are trying to prohibit word Caucasian in all federal documents as well. I guess some people find it offensive to call someone based on their geographic origin, its definitely an interesting topic to discuss.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html

 

[Dude]

@Dude, I really would encourage that you to reconsider the use of the word "oriental". Perhaps try to use the terms that Census Canada employs. It would be even better if you try not to reference the ethnicity of a person. It is just a human being, and hopefully we start to move towards societies where this is not an issue or noticed.

The problem is that the word "Oriental" is closely associated to a time in Canada/USA/UK where the general attitude was something like:

"As early as 1882 … Macdonald referred to the Chinese as “an inferior race,” “semi-barbarians,” or “machines with whom Canadians could not compete” but whose labour was necessary for railway construction. Moreover, Macdonald believed the Mongolian and Aryan races could never combine. In short, John A. Macdonald was a racist, but he was also a practical politician and nation-builder. Thus, he sympathized with British Columbia’s demands for Chinese restriction, and as soon as the railway was virtually complete, his government introduced a Chinese immigration Act. In 1885, Macdonald was a hero to many British Columbians: he had fulfilled the railway promise and his new immigration law seemed likely to permit white British Columbians to enjoy the benefits of Confederation without the fear of being overwhelmed by low-paid Chinese immigrants."

This is not an issue of the past. It still lingers in our society. I know that you will all get all up and down, but in the Canadian Soccer National Team there is NO one single individual of Asian descent or South Asian descent. Prejudice against those individual still exist on the Canadian soccer circles. It just manifest in subtle manners, but at the end those groups are been marginalized or excluded from the National Team. It is a form of institutionalized bias and prejudice.

@Dude, there is no need to insult people.

You aren’t an idiot, per se, you just remind me of an idiot.

How’s that? Progress?

 

[bulljive]

In US they prohibited to use Oriental word in all federal documents.

They are trying to prohibit word Caucasian in all federal documents as well. I guess some people find it offensive to call someone based on their geographic origin, its definitely an interesting topic to discuss.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html

I don’t find it interesting in the least, I find it exhausting. I rather spend my energy finding ways to make the lower mainland affordable for the current/future generations. Transport tax? sure throw another one on me. I’ll use all the spare income I have. Gas at 1.60? No problem. Constant increases in car insurance/ electricity.
No problem. Call me Caucasian? How dare you. It’s ridiculous. Why do we spend sso much time so obsessed about Trumps tweets or what Roseanne has to say? I have more important things to deal with.

 

[Canucks4Ever]

Why do we spend sso much time so obsessed about Trumps tweets or what Roseanne has to say? I have more important things to deal with.

Ya, like wtf is going on with "Port City FC".

Looks like the CPL is giving each of the teams their moment in the lime light with big unveilings. Next one scheduled for 8am next Wednesday, per the countdown clock on the CPL site. Calgary, York and Halifax already up and running; Winnipeg and Hamilton were the first two franchises announced over a year ago so one assumes they are well organized and just waiting for their moment. Ottawa is in the midst of their NASL campaign, but it stands to reason they will just flip their whole show over after the season. Edmonton only a year removed from playing in the NASL so a similar story there you would have to think.

Which leaves just "Port City". Originally unveiled as "a team from BC" when the other 7 were all revealed and still no news even trickling out about just which port city in the Provence they are referring to, it does not exactly inspire confidence...

 

[dezza]

I heard Victoria is currently more likely for 2019 than Port City.

 

[Dude]

How can it not be? Unless there is a plan in place, and an actual project already moving forward for "Port City" that has somehow been kept very tight lipped, and no leaks...it would appear to us on the outside Victoria has their ducks in a row and are ready to roll.

 

[Canucks4Ever]

Technically Victoria would still be a "Port City" no?

Anyway, it just seams like the CPL has seven teams ready to go and one more that they are trying to force into BC. Not that there is a lack of interest from the general public, just that the back office/bureaucratic side seems to have stalled.

The longer it goes, the more likely it is to either completely fall through or be thrown together last minute; neither of which looks good on the league.

I personally think that Victoria is the best BC market for this team anyway with MLS and PDL already in the Lower Mainland.

 

[Dude]

Yeah, and great call on the "Port City" thing.

PDL there, too...but I suspect the Highlanders are the club expressing interest.

I have stated my piece on the Lower Mainland: do it right, or don't do it. Has to be Central City, and you'd be bat-shite crazy and as stupid as Soccer Coach not to engage / align with / collaborate with the South Asian community. So, yes, if you are not in Central City, don't bother. Victoria is next best BC Option.

 

[dezza]

No, Port City is not Victoria.

No, Victoria are not the Highlanders.

I'm not sure who's got the money behind the Victoria group but I know one of the public faces is former national teamer Josh Simpson.
The only delay afaik on the Victoria (Langford) franchise is a stadium expansion which is partially at risk due BC Hydro lines blocking the spot where the new bleachers would be installed.

 

[Dude]

Rino's involved? After all, you need a place to play all your paid players, now that the heat is on.

I kid, I jest. Laughing emoji.

 

[Gurps]

I personally think Victoria should be the first BC City if they the can get it together. Good population base, great weather and lots of soccer talent to draw from and would easily pull in players from the Lower Mainland as well.

Off topic.....

I remember taking a look at the VISL standings once years back and there was a team called the "Fernwood Socialists." I bet Carole James and Hulk Horgan went out and gave them some support.

Better than the Cloverdale Rowdies I suppose.

 

[Dude]

Jocksniffer forum posting about an announcement today regarding the FV group.....