Bob Birarda done as Womens Whitecaps/ CSA Womens U-20 Gaffer

[Regs]

My bad on timeline of Busby at Surrey FC, he was there actually before becoming WFC Women HC... couldn't find any reference on google but could here on TTP

New Youth HPL league

I agree. You know, it's not too often I'll come to Bullock's defense, because he really is a twat ;) , but I'd like to ask the broad based question: what history does CCFC, formerly Walley FC, have in developing players? SFC is one of the pioneering clubs in the area to have started taking...

takethepiss.com

 

[Dude]

Forgot about that. Pretty sure Bullocks is still a twat.

 

[Regs]

Players want Fifa vice-president suspended after Guardian investigation

Former members of the Vancouver Whitecaps women’s team are demanding an investigation into Victor Montagliani’s handling of sexual misconduct allegations in Canada

www.theguardian.com

Additional demands.

 

[Dude]

Not a surprise. If you follow Ciara on Twitter, he's been in her line of sight for some time now.

 

[Regs]

Not a surprise. If you follow Ciara on Twitter, he's been in her line of sight for some time now.

I don't because I would probably get into trouble and reply there

I wonder what has been said between them "behind the scenes" for this push on retribution demand on the CSA President at the time?

 

[dezza]

Vic wasn't even CSA president back then, it was Maestracci.

 

[Regs]

Vic wasn't even CSA president back then, it was Maestracci.

I haven't checked the timeline myself but if this is the case, WTAF?

 

[Regs]

2012. So he inherits the wrath?

 

[Dude]

What was his position prior to 2012?

 

[Regs]

Dunno,

 

[Dude]

Dunno,

So, he stated he wanted to bring Canada into being a "World Class" association, where "Everything is a support mechanism for the player". Unfortunately, that comment was only in reference to performance, not protecting the players.

Here's the scenario regarding "Inheriting the wrath". I suppose most of this is about timelines, however, could he have done something about the BB situation upon taking leadership in 2012? It's pretty clear he knew of the allegations, so why did the guy still have a license? Why did these organizations turn a blind eye towards him getting back into the very same workplace where he was escorted out of? I'm sure at some point BB's license requirements reverted to BCSA, but why should that stop the action of, at the very least, banning this guy from ever coaching again?

If he was aware of the situation upon taking over, he could have done more, and chose not to. He's in a position of leadership to not only do the fun stuff, but do the ugly stuff. The BB and HB issues are the ugly things he did inherit. People may not like that, but it's reality. Your organization's umbrella is meant to follow through with your own statement, "Everything is a support mechanism for the player." He said it himself, so he failed in providing that mechanism.

 

[Regs]

So why are the people that WERE IN CHARGE AT THE TIME not getting the same treatment? I don't get that. Why is only one person being singled out here? Is it because of his current position? If so, that's fcuked (in this context) IMHO.

 

[dezza]

According to Ciara he was some kind of VP in charge of national teams prior to becoming President.

Edit: and it's confirmed on his own LinkedIn profile:

 

[mtkb]

You know... for all the hand wringing about inaction on the part of the power brokers... not a damn allegation has been proven, admitted, anything yet... that being the case, what exactly are the people in charge supposed to do? The answer surely is not to do nothing, or sweep allegations under the carpet, or to put a gag order on your employees as you shuffle a problem coach quietly out the back door... but this witch-hunt needs to slow it's roll.

MLS has it exactly right. Administrative leave pending an independent investigation... should have been done at the front end with BB and Busby instead of at the back end, but here we are...

 

[Dude]

So why are the people that WERE IN CHARGE AT THE TIME not getting the same treatment? I don't get that. Why is only one person being singled out here? Is it because of his current position? If so, that's fcuked (in this context) IMHO.

No idea.

 

[Dude]

You know... for all the hand wringing about inaction on the part of the power brokers... not a damn allegation has been proven, admitted, anything yet... that being the case, what exactly are the people in charge supposed to do? The answer surely is not to do nothing, or sweep allegations under the carpet, or to put a gag order on your employees as you shuffle a problem coach quietly out the back door... but this witch-hunt needs to slow it's roll.

MLS has it exactly right. Administrative leave pending an independent investigation... should have been done at the front end with BB and Busby instead of at the back end, but here we are...

It's impossible to unwind this one.

The witch-hunt will not slow it's roll, don't be surprised if it gathers steam. There is the benefit of 20/20 vision on this, one can now say IF ___ had happened then, maybe ___ would not be happening today. If you are in her shoes, and you know these things happened, and you are completely convinced that not enough was done, would you sit quietly or go to scorched earth?

 

[mtkb]

It's impossible to unwind this one.

The witch-hunt will not slow it's roll, don't be surprised if it gathers steam. There is the benefit of 20/20 vision on this, one can now say IF ___ had happened then, maybe ___ would not be happening today. If you are in her shoes, and you know these things happened, and you are completely convinced that not enough was done, would you sit quietly or go to scorched earth?

"and you know these things happened"... therein lies the problem - only the people who were directly involved "know"... everyone else is acting on what they believe to be true.

I think the push for organizational / procedural / administative change on a general basis is something that can and should be zealously pursued. Ergo, whatever happened in the past, this is what must be the process going forward. I'd focus on that.

I don't think calling for heads to roll over as yet unproven allegations and as yet unproven negligence in the handling of those unproven allegations is appropriate.

There's now an open investigation into the handling of the allegations (and more - the sex assault stuff on the boys' side isn't escaping scrutiny here either, nor should it). Birarda is charged criminally - albeit for stuff from 1988 to 2008. Busby, on the basis of his alleged behaviour, could be. So yes, respectfully, it's time for everyone to slow their roll on the "off with their heads" mantra...

 

[Spankmemanky]

Vic was the Dir of NT and was the person directly responsible for coaching appointments and management of Staff.

He fluffed his investigation and diminished the women’s trauma by mid reporting to the CSA and now will finally be held accountable for what should have been a very easy decision of ensuring BB never coached again.

He did not do that because of his personal relationship with BB and was partly responsible for the non disclosure agreement bullshit….. so hopefully the universe sends him a little parting gift…. He’s enjoyed significant benefits since 2008 on the company dime….. another FIFA debacle… it’s like a magnet for miscreants

 

[Regs]

He fluffed his investigation and diminished the women’s trauma by mid reporting to the CSA and now will finally be held accountable for what should have been a very easy decision of ensuring BB never coached again.

What does that mean? I'm serious here, what does mid-reporting mean and how did you know that? Is there a copy of the report he fluffed available anywhere for people to make their own judgements?

 

[Regs]

Who did Vic report to during this time and why did they allow him to fluff and mid report?