Bob Birarda done as Womens Whitecaps/ CSA Womens U-20 Gaffer

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What I find amusing is that every one of you fine folks alleging malfeasance on the part of the BCSPL has a slightly different version of what exactly happened to Bob Birarda, what his exact situation was, who knew it and / or ought to have known it, at the time of his hire into the league.

You know what that tells me?

You're all talking out of your ass.

Shhhhhhhhhh...........
Coastal was informed by an employee of Whitecaps not to hire Birarda. BCSPL not responsible for Coastal's decision with respect to that as they didn't know that call was made, presumably.

BCSPL knew he was fired. The CSA's release and the reporting made that very clear.

CSA is ultimately responsible for not taking stronger steps, as are the Whitecaps. More responsible than BCSPL. Coastal, whoever received the call that is, is also responsible.

But, that level of the soccer circle is small - you will never convince me people in BCSPL didn't know what was going on and why he was fired. Maybe you personally didn't, but others did no doubt.
 

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Again, abdicating. It was your place to pry. If anyone needs to be better it's those who were in a position to look into it. Any threat or risk to children must be taken very seriously regardless of the vagueness of the innuendo.
So it's my job as a member of the BOG to engage in a witch-hunt, based on absolutely fcuk all in the way of evidence, into the hiring practices of a rival club, in a context where the hiring of coaches within the league is a rather competitive marketplace. Got it.

I haven't even begun to sharpen my tongue with respect to the weaknesses in the allegations as they currently exist in the public sphere. I could be days raising questions and concerns with the multitude of points Ciara raised in her novel. And that's with genuinely knowing next to nothing about what actually went on; imagine what someone who had a knowledge base could do.

I'm not threatening anything because I don't lose sleep over words emanating from rectums. We all had a fiduciary duty to protect the boys and girls in our league. Rest assured I dealt with my share of issues within my own club.

I'm curious why you don't seem to believe that I received zero information about BB while sitting on the BOG, but it's the truth. Can't act on a nothing.
 

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Who at Coastal, and who at the Whitecaps. Either provide details or stop making bald assertions. Pick your ride.
The media from what I remember said that Diane Voice, the Whitecaps Manager, called Tsawwassen (The first club to hire him after Canada Soccer/Whitecaps firing ?) to warn them, and Jack Reddy a former coach (?) said he brought the coach and his firing up at a Coastal Board Meeting.

I remember also reading (maybe hearing on the radio?) that the current Executive Director of Coastal was working for the Whitecaps in 2008. The report that was just released said that the Whitecaps in 2008 was a much smaller organization, so I find it hard to believe, along with other parents I have spoken to, that no one knew anything, or at least wouldn't have made some phone calls to look a bit deeper. As other people have said, he went from coaching a national team in the same city and suddenly losing his job to wanting to coach a rec team. There's a serious problem with hiring protocol that needs to be examined if that didn't raise red flags for anyone, even if they didn't know anything about the situation.

Your cutting remarks towards the player that originally brought forward the blog is curious to me. Maybe if it was just one player saying things, but the examples brought forward by the 13 or 14 U20 National Team players were horrifying. With those kind of numbers, I'm firmly on the players side. What do any of them have to gain by coming forward and making something up in such large numbers, especially so long after the fact?

Regardless, as a parent with kids in the system, I have to say I am grateful for the publicity and awareness of all the holes in the system and to be vigilant with my kids and their safety moving forward. All of this has been incredibly eye-opening.
 

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perhaps it wasn’t so shocking he went to HPL team, as from what I am aware, his daughter played on that team. So like many fathers, he wanted to coach his daughters team.
I can see how the question didn’t arise, “why would he want to coach here and at this level?”.
 

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perhaps it wasn’t so shocking he went to HPL team, as from what I am aware, his daughter played on that team. So like many fathers, he wanted to coach his daughters team.
I can see how the question didn’t arise, “why would he want to coach here and at this level?”.
His daughter's team was his second run through.

He'd already taken a team from u13-u18 previously, starting with them at Tsawwassen when a parent decided to shell out the cash to hire him, and then having him and the full squad move over to Coastal with the advent of bcspl. There may have been a year or two overlap where he ran 2 teams, or maybe the timing just worked perfectly for the first team to graduate just as his daughter hit bcspl age.
 
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The media from what I remember said that Diane Voice, the Whitecaps Manager, called Tsawwassen (The first club to hire him after Canada Soccer/Whitecaps firing ?) to warn them, and Jack Reddy a former coach (?) said he brought the coach and his firing up at a Coastal Board Meeting.

I remember also reading (maybe hearing on the radio?) that the current Executive Director of Coastal was working for the Whitecaps in 2008. The report that was just released said that the Whitecaps in 2008 was a much smaller organization, so I find it hard to believe, along with other parents I have spoken to, that no one knew anything, or at least wouldn't have made some phone calls to look a bit deeper. As other people have said, he went from coaching a national team in the same city and suddenly losing his job to wanting to coach a rec team. There's a serious problem with hiring protocol that needs to be examined if that didn't raise red flags for anyone, even if they didn't know anything about the situation.

Your cutting remarks towards the player that originally brought forward the blog is curious to me. Maybe if it was just one player saying things, but the examples brought forward by the 13 or 14 U20 National Team players were horrifying. With those kind of numbers, I'm firmly on the players side. What do any of them have to gain by coming forward and making something up in such large numbers, especially so long after the fact?

Regardless, as a parent with kids in the system, I have to say I am grateful for the publicity and awareness of all the holes in the system and to be vigilant with my kids and their safety moving forward. All of this has been incredibly eye-opening.
Two related comments in response to yours:

1) Just because there are more allegations doesn't make any specific allegation more credible or reliable. That's a logical fallacy. Sure, if a bunch of people who don't know each other are all singing from exactly the same page of some obscure hymn book, then yeah, it starts to have some persuasive value. That's called "similar fact" evidence. But, the standard to rely on that type of evidence - especially when you're using one allegation to bootstrap another allegation (as distinct from a previous conviction for the exact same type of act) is appropriately high.

2) A bushel full of hearsay is not what I was looking for when I asked "who at Coastal and who at the Whitecaps". I am completely unmoved by what the media said or what you heard on the radio. To be clear, I'm not trying to be dismissive of you, but rather the value of the "evidence" you've offered.

Anyway, dezza reminded me that he actually went from the Caps to another club first. In effect, his baggage was effectively laundered - at least partially - by the indirect route he took to Coastal...
 

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